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re: Anybody Who *ACTUALLY* Believes That Kobe > Lebron...
Posted on 5/24/17 at 2:48 pm to vengeanceofrain
Posted on 5/24/17 at 2:48 pm to vengeanceofrain
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One gets away with double dribbling the other gets away with rape #notonmylevel
no one is on your level, your level of stupidity is something that PJ marvels at
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 3:06 pm to vengeanceofrain
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Kobe Bryant is just a better player in the game of basketball by any vengeanceofrain standard
FIFY
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Who would you rather have the ball with 5 seconds left?
I'll take Lebron, since you know we have stats out there that show he makes a higher percentage of his shots than Kobe does in "clutch" situations like this.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 3:09 pm to vengeanceofrain
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Kobe has 9 first team all defensive teams LeBron has 5
A good chunk of Kobe's all-defensive awards are reputation based. HIs all-defense awards, with 2nd team in italics, and the corresponding Lakers defensive on/off rating, with a positive number being a bad thing for his defense.
2000
2001 -3.3
2002 +8.9
2003 -1.0
2004 +0.7
2006 +6.4
2007 -1.0
2008 -0.8
2009 +1.5
2010 -3.4
2011 +4.4
2012 -2.9
5 of the 11 years with data show the defense was better when he was on the bench.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 3:15 pm to MidnightVibe
Obviously doesn't read career statlines nor acknowledge that LeBron shoots better fg and 3 pt pct nor acknowledge that LeBron won more NBA MVPs but that's their delusionary perception.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:50 am to sicboy
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Look up "opinion" and accept we're not all the same. And it's ok.
You have no idea what "opinion" means.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 3:01 am to vengeanceofrain
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My ego isn't tied to who is better. Kobe Bryant is just a better player if the came of basketball by any reasonable standard
Who would you rather have the ball with 5 seconds left?
Why can't all world LeBron crack 80% from the three point line
One gets away with double dribbling the other gets away with rape #notonmylevel
Like foreal stasticly Denver gives LeBron the most troubles of any NBA team his career. Is it a coincidence that is where Kobe committed his rape? I think not
"Hey look, everybody, look at me: my name is vengeanceofrain and I'm a full-blown retard."
Posted on 5/26/17 at 6:06 am to PhiTiger1764
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Without looking it up, I would imagine that Kobe shoots more from 3 per game for his career. Kobe shot a lot more tough/bad shots than LeBron.
It's logical Kobe had to shoot more jumpers- he's had good offensive bigs clogging the lane almost every year & he needed to space the floor a lot of times. He never had a big time all star shooter like Lebron had with Kyrie. Bosh & Love are bigs that shoot a high % jumper, & altered their game from go-to post guy 24+ PPG, to floor spacing. Bosh's high elbow jumper was cash
Gasol in '01-end of his Lakers area was strictly a low post player. He didn't develop his deep ball until he got older. Lebron has never had an offensive juggarnaut post player, so naturally the lanes are more open for him to take higher % shots.
It's not a knock on either of them. Personnel & schematics dictated the types of shot each needed to fulfill their role on the team. Kobe's SF's were not lights out shooters for the most part either. Fox was probably his best one. Odom & Metta weren't high % deep shooters, so the burden fell on Kobe.
Both players played their hand the right way to maximize the personnel's strengths
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:44 am to AjaxFury
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AjaxFury
Who is the better player in your opinion?
Posted on 2/15/19 at 6:28 am to StrongBackWeakMind
Posted on 2/15/19 at 8:41 am to MidnightVibe
The NBA died after Kobe’s last game
Posted on 2/15/19 at 9:10 am to Tiger Nation 84
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Wake me up when Lebron wins his 5th ring
Shaq carried Kobe to his first three
Posted on 2/15/19 at 9:34 am to VADawg
There's a reason why all objective stats have LeBron significantly ahead of Kobe.
That's why you have to resort to things like "killer instinct", "grit", and ignoring Shaq driving the Lakers to three rings to make any argument Kobe is better. Kobe is top 20 all time, but he isn't better than LeBron.
That's why you have to resort to things like "killer instinct", "grit", and ignoring Shaq driving the Lakers to three rings to make any argument Kobe is better. Kobe is top 20 all time, but he isn't better than LeBron.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 8:08 pm to MidnightVibe
Kobe isn't even a top5 player of all time
Posted on 2/15/19 at 8:18 pm to MidnightVibe
Man,
For one I don’t give a shite about ranking player
For second, I love Kobe. The man is a genius. I can’t say that about another damn player in the nba right now
For one I don’t give a shite about ranking player
For second, I love Kobe. The man is a genius. I can’t say that about another damn player in the nba right now
Posted on 2/16/19 at 12:47 am to MidnightVibe
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Replace "thinks 911 was a conspiracy", with "thinks Kobe was ever as good as Lebron at basketball".
Just wanted to come in here to say, it would have been way funnier if you actually did it.
I have nothing else constructive to add...
Posted on 2/16/19 at 1:24 am to zzemme
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Kobe was great but Lebron is better without question and has been for some time.
True...but both paper Tigers.
Wish they had the balls of Jordan or Bird. Cut a team's throat out...talk shite all day and attack and dive for balls and elbow people for a simple rebound.
Work for everything to win...everything to win. Not be prima donnas and back away from a challenge.
Like Lebron against the Celtics and Kobe against Celtics.
This post was edited on 2/16/19 at 1:28 am
Posted on 2/16/19 at 7:31 am to MidnightVibe
I'm not a full blown retard and I think as an overall player LeBron is better, however, if LeBron was done right now, Kobe's career has been better. 5 rings, 1 finals loss. Won with Shaq and without. Lebron has one title comparable to any of Kobes and that's the Cleveland one. Kobe has more points, was a better man defender, better perimeter shooter and a killer in clutch time. It's a much closer argument than the media, and fans, want to believe it is. Kobe was a monster that people just don't give the respect he deserves.
Also as hard as it is to believe, it may be that Kobe is actually a better teammate. Who would've think it.
Also as hard as it is to believe, it may be that Kobe is actually a better teammate. Who would've think it.
Posted on 2/16/19 at 7:38 am to lsufanva
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better perimeter shooter
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a killer in clutch time
i don't think the stats agree with either of these
reminds me of an argument i once got in with a guy at the poker table, when he said kobe was a better outside shooter and when i showed their respective 3P%, he still said kobe >
Posted on 2/16/19 at 7:38 am to zzemme
Purely Basketball wise there is absolutely no argument and hasnt been since at least 2012
You can definitely argue Kobe had a more fun and more memorable career though
You can definitely argue Kobe had a more fun and more memorable career though
This post was edited on 2/16/19 at 7:41 am
Posted on 2/16/19 at 8:00 am to MidnightVibe
Kobe isn’t better than LeBron, but I feel Kobe is completely underrated and unappreciated at this point.
People only seem to remember him when he was old and people would joke about him not passing the ball.
In his prime he was a stone cold killer.
People only seem to remember him when he was old and people would joke about him not passing the ball.
In his prime he was a stone cold killer.
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