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re: Adam Schefter: Tom Brady's suspension will be overturned
Posted on 5/14/15 at 4:44 am to OKtiger
Posted on 5/14/15 at 4:44 am to OKtiger
quote:Where do you get "most likely?" Maybe he'll win an appeal or win in court--if taken that far--but when his current state is "suspended" it's hard to say the most likely option is he will get off free. Not to mention, because Goodell wasn't the investigator or punisher--unlike bounty gate--Brady probably has less recourse legally.
How angry are you that Brady will most likely get off free for this failed sting?
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 8:32 am to buckeye_vol
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Where do you get "most likely?" Maybe he'll win an appeal or win in court--if taken that far--but when his current state is "suspended" it's hard to say the most likely option is he will get off free. Not to mention, because Goodell wasn't the investigator or punisher--unlike bounty gate--Brady probably has less recourse legally.
you are wasting your breath. Dude is like a 15 year old kid who is a fanboy. lol, i think he would give his life for brady
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:26 am to oleyeller
The NFL leadership make zero sense to me right now. They have a historically good franchise in the Patriots and a QB who will go down as an all-time great. So the NFL decides it is best to overblow a stupid controversy about air pressure in a football and, in the process, tear down and tarnish the legacy of an all-time great QB and a stellar franchise over the last decade or more. Roger Goodell needs to lob a phone call to David Stern about how to run a league. Right now freaking Gary Bettman is looking like a genious compared to Roger.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:36 am to SoDakHawk
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David Stern
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:37 am to oleyeller
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David Stern
Yes, I know he is not the current commissioner of the NBA but he was the one who built that league into what it is today. The man makes all the right moves.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:43 am to SoDakHawk
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David Stern
Yes, I know he is not the current commissioner of the NBA but he was the one who built that league into what it is today. The man makes all the right moves.
dude adam silver is the best commish in all of sports. And the best any have had in the past 20years! He is doing an amazing job
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:58 am to RollTide1987
Lots of deadbeats in this thread who are just fine with rapists, woman+ beaters and cheaters. Ridiculous. Punishment wasn't harsh enough for Pats+Brady, and wasn't harsh enough for any of these guys over the last year.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 10:08 am to Rand AlThor
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Lots of deadbeats in this thread who are just fine with rapists, woman+ beaters and cheaters. Ridiculous. Punishment wasn't harsh enough for Pats+Brady, and wasn't harsh enough for any of these guys over the last year.
No it's not that.
If you're one to take a stand against things like that, that's great. You want to change the world, I applaud it. But there are plenty of places you can start. Bad things are everywhere, in your home town, community, region, state, whatever.
It just seems disingenuous to be up in arms so much about what sports stars do when evil is everywhere, and often much worse in our very own surroundings. Yet we often don't tackle those every day issues with the same fervor as we do sports stars.
You're the only one lumping Brady in with Ray Rice or people that committed actual crimes.
This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 10:14 am
Posted on 5/14/15 at 10:12 am to SoDakHawk
Dan Wetzel agrees with you.
This is how the NFL let deflate-gate get out of control and ridiculous.
This is how the NFL let deflate-gate get out of control and ridiculous.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 10:49 am to oleyeller
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dude adam silver is the best commish in all of sports. And the best any have had in the past 20years! He is doing an amazing job
Yes, Adam Silver is doing a good job, never said otherwise. He learned from Stern.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 11:00 am to RollTide1987
Not sure if discussed, didn't read whole thread - but guy on cbs radio was saying there is an NFL rule that says tampering with the footballs carries a 25k fine (nothing about suspensions, draft picks, $1 MILL fines, etc.) Not sure if that's accurate or not.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 11:02 am to The Mick
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but guy on cbs radio was saying there is an NFL rule that says tampering with the footballs carries a 25k fine (nothing about suspensions, draft picks, $1 MILL fines, etc.) Not sure if that's accurate or not.
That is an accurate statement. However, the NFL is claiming the fine and suspension are a result of lack of cooperation with the investigation.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 11:06 am to The Mick
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Not sure if discussed, didn't read whole thread - but guy on cbs radio was saying there is an NFL rule that says tampering with the footballs carries a 25k fine (nothing about suspensions, draft picks, $1 MILL fines, etc.) Not sure if that's accurate or not.
If Brady had gotten out in front of this investigation and said "yep, I did it. It's a dumb rule but I broke it, won't happen again" that fine would've been the end of it most likely.
But he's outright denying he had anything to do with it.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 11:06 am to Bunk Moreland
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A first-year attorney could lampoon Wells' report, and Brady has hired the prominent Jeffrey Kessler, so expect the four-game suspension to be halved on appeal. We'll see about the New England Patriots' lost draft picks and $1 million fine.
Still, at this point it's worth contemplating the totality of evidence, as Wells likes to write. And what's apparent is deflate-gate was more misdemeanor than felony, a molehill that commissioner Roger Goodell's office turned into a mountain via incompetence, vengeance or both.
Wetzel is on point.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 11:09 am to Goldrush25
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If Brady had gotten out in front of this investigation and said "yep, I did it. It's a dumb rule but I broke it, won't happen again" that fine would've been the end of it most likely.
This would have never become a story if not for the NFL. The night this story broke ESPN was quoting an unnamed NFL official who claimed the balls were two pounds below the legal limit. This wasn't even close to true.
And then they did it again when ESPN quoted another unnamed NFL VP who claimed just days before the Wells Report was released that most of the Patriots' footballs were measured in the 10 PSI range. Another out and out lie. None of them registered below 11.
The NFL mishandled this just as badly as Brady and the Patriots mishandled it IMHO.
This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 11:12 am
Posted on 5/14/15 at 11:16 am to RollTide1987
quote:So the NFL came out and said a big part of the punishment was the lack of cooperation with the investigation?
That is an accurate statement. However, the NFL is claiming the fine and suspension are a result of lack of cooperation with the investigation.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 11:25 am to Goldrush25
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If Brady had gotten out in front of this investigation and said "yep, I did it. It's a dumb rule but I broke it, won't happen again" that fine would've been the end of it most likely.
But he's outright denying he had anything to do with it.
yep, its not so much the crime as it is the coverup that got the Pats tagged by the commish.
if they had come out right away this wouldnt even be talked about anymore.
instead Kraft started demanding apologies and Brady blatantly lied about having any idea about it.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 11:43 am to Bunk Moreland
If half of what Wetzel is report is true, the NFL's leadership needs to be replaced.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 11:55 am to TigerintheNO
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If half of what Wetzel is report is true, the NFL's leadership needs to be replaced.
Damn right.
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A good commissioner would've done just that. He's supposed to "protect the shield," not provide talk radio fodder. There is just no way Adam Silver, Paul Tagliabue or David Stern lets this go down.
Even more bizarre, an NFL senior vice president emailed a letter to the Patriots stating that "one of the game balls was inflated to 10.1 psi … [and] in contrast each of the Colts game balls that was inspected met the requirements."
Those assertions were untrue.
No gameball was measured below 10.5 and most were in the 11s, which is within an acceptable range of natural deflation. Three of the four Colts footballs as measured by one gauge were below 12.5, although also within the weather realm (it's uncertain the NFL knew anything about Ideal Gas Law at the time). Wells' report brushed this off as "miscommunication" but it's quite a miscommunication.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:49 pm to TigerintheNO
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If half of what Wetzel is report is true, the NFL's leadership needs to be replaced.
we didnt need his report to know that.
the very moment Roger tried to pretend that he couldn't get his grubby little hands on the Rice video was proof positive he sucks at his job.
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