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ACC must punish offending teams in Wake Forest scandal / petrino cheats
Posted by royalvin on 12/14/16 at 12:30 am105
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No! That is not the end of that. Are you kidding me? This is a major scandal, and not for Wake Forest. Anybody who used that information from Elrod cheated to win a football game. This includes coach Bobby Petrino and Louisville, the only school currently believed to have studied at the Tommy Elrod Institute of Higher Cheating. It apparently includes other schools as well. If the Atlantic Coast Conference has a shred of integrity, this will lead to major suspensions, at minimum.
Petrino apparently cheated to win a game. And it was probably easy to do. When Elrod coached at Wake Forest, he was co-coordinator of the passing game. His other co-coordinator, Lonnie Galloway, now works on Petrino’s staff. That sound you hear should be Galloway calling his lawyer.
Now, you can say other coaches would do what Petrino did, and you are right. In fact, Wake Forest’s statement implies that other schools were involved, and those coaches should also be punished severely.
But I’ve talked to enough football coaches over the years to say, with confidence: A lot of them would not do this. This is also supported by Wake’s statement, which says Elrod “provided or attempted to provide confidential and proprietary game preparations on multiple occasions.” The words “attempted to provide” imply that some coaches told him, “No thanks.” The everybody’s doing it defense is not a defense—and it drives the many honest people in the coaching profession crazy.
No! That is not the end of that. Are you kidding me? This is a major scandal, and not for Wake Forest. Anybody who used that information from Elrod cheated to win a football game. This includes coach Bobby Petrino and Louisville, the only school currently believed to have studied at the Tommy Elrod Institute of Higher Cheating. It apparently includes other schools as well. If the Atlantic Coast Conference has a shred of integrity, this will lead to major suspensions, at minimum.
Petrino apparently cheated to win a game. And it was probably easy to do. When Elrod coached at Wake Forest, he was co-coordinator of the passing game. His other co-coordinator, Lonnie Galloway, now works on Petrino’s staff. That sound you hear should be Galloway calling his lawyer.
Now, you can say other coaches would do what Petrino did, and you are right. In fact, Wake Forest’s statement implies that other schools were involved, and those coaches should also be punished severely.
But I’ve talked to enough football coaches over the years to say, with confidence: A lot of them would not do this. This is also supported by Wake’s statement, which says Elrod “provided or attempted to provide confidential and proprietary game preparations on multiple occasions.” The words “attempted to provide” imply that some coaches told him, “No thanks.” The everybody’s doing it defense is not a defense—and it drives the many honest people in the coaching profession crazy.
This post was edited on 12/14 at 12:32 am
re: ACC must punish offending teams in Wake Forest scandal / petrino cheatsPosted by someoldhussy on 12/14/16 at 12:34 am to royalvin
That's a geaux tigers!
re: ACC must punish offending teams in Wake Forest scandal / petrino cheatsPosted by Yewkindewit on 12/14/16 at 5:50 am to royalvin
It will be shoved under the rug like a dry day old cat turd....
re: ACC must punish offending teams in Wake Forest scandal / petrino cheatsPosted by crookedicat on 12/14/16 at 6:56 am to royalvin
Any word on why Elrod did this?
re: ACC must punish offending teams in Wake Forest scandal / petrino cheatsPosted by Hulkklogan on 12/14/16 at 7:08 am to royalvin
I mean, if someone is going to give you the opponent game plan and it's not against ncaa rules for you to accept and use that game plan, wouldn't you do it too?
I say punish Elrod to hell and back.. But whether or not others get punished depends on ncaa rules.
I say punish Elrod to hell and back.. But whether or not others get punished depends on ncaa rules.
This post was edited on 12/14 at 7:09 am
Well whoever these other coaches are that may have cheated, it probably didn't work as well as they hoped. Wake just finished its best season in years.
I can't wait to read the list of coaches who accepted and still got their arse beat.
I can't wait to read the list of coaches who accepted and still got their arse beat.
quote:Serious question, is it cheating for the other teams?
No! That is not the end of that. Are you kidding me? This is a major scandal, and not for Wake Forest. Anybody who used that information from Elrod cheated to win a football game. This includes coach Bobby Petrino and Louisville, the only school currently believed to have studied at the Tommy Elrod Institute of Higher Cheating. It apparently includes other schools as well. If the Atlantic Coast Conference has a shred of integrity, this will lead to major suspensions, at minimum.
If so, why?
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It is not cheating, you are just using information given to you. We used to look in trash cans and when go visit the other EQM on road trips for information and take what we could find.
This is no different then stealing signs or getting reads off a cadence.
There were times we found practice scripts, notes, position tests etc.
Every school looks for things, it is Wake's issue nobody else.
This is no different then stealing signs or getting reads off a cadence.
There were times we found practice scripts, notes, position tests etc.
Every school looks for things, it is Wake's issue nobody else.
This post was edited on 12/14 at 9:00 am
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Serious question, is it cheating for the other teams?
Abso-fricking-lutely
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If so, why?
Can't believe you need an answer....but:
You can't knowingly accept IP (intellectual property) from someone from another organization that did not give you the information for you to use...This guy was not authorized to give this information to his competitors. It appears that he was not even suppose to be in possession of this material in most cases.
Would Apple get in trouble if some guy came from Google and gave them IP about some breakthrough new product and Apple utilized it?
re: ACC must punish offending teams in Wake Forest scandal / petrino cheatsPosted by Chitter Chatter on 12/14/16 at 9:41 am to crookedicat
Wonder if Elrod has a gambling problem.....
Or he is just pissed off at WF for some reason
Or he is just pissed off at WF for some reason
re: ACC must punish offending teams in Wake Forest scandal / petrino cheatsPosted by Sevendust912 on 12/14/16 at 9:43 am to Chitter Chatter
Whatever his problem is, he will never coach again so I hope it was worth it. I doubt he could even get a job at the high school level at this point.
re: ACC must punish offending teams in Wake Forest scandal / petrino cheatsPosted by rutiger on 12/14/16 at 9:43 am to Chitter Chatter
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Or he is just pissed off at WF for some reason
He was a coach on the staff under grobe, when grobe got fired clawson didnt retain him. I guess this was his way to get back at them.
It happens all the time, do not be so naïve. As I said EQM and Trainers are told to look for things in trash cans in locker rooms and etc when going through walk-throughs.
Now it be given by a radio guy, that is strange. But every team in America does espionage of some type.
Now it be given by a radio guy, that is strange. But every team in America does espionage of some type.
re: ACC must punish offending teams in Wake Forest scandal / petrino cheatsPosted by SlowFlowPro on 12/14/16 at 9:45 am to IT_Dawg
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You can't knowingly accept IP (intellectual property) from someone from another organization that did not give you the information for you to use..
what if you hire a coach from a competitor to get their "IP"?
are we to assume that the hiring team is cheating or that the assistant is to forget all of that info?
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Would Apple get in trouble if some guy came from Google and gave them IP about some breakthrough new product and Apple utilized it?
would Apple get in trouble if it hired a guy from Google who re-organized their internal structure, meeting protocol, and philosophy so that it mirrors Google's?
re: ACC must punish offending teams in Wake Forest scandal / petrino cheatsPosted by SlowFlowPro on 12/14/16 at 9:46 am to sms151t
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But every team in America does espionage of some type.
NFL teams love to hire scrubs just to get this information
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