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re: A-Rod could be facing a lifetime ban

Posted on 7/24/13 at 1:28 am to
Posted by MrBlue105
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/24/13 at 1:28 am to
Juicing is not frickin human. I want to watch humans play humans. SICK of hearing about a rod. I hope they just bury him
This post was edited on 7/24/13 at 1:30 am
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
29987 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 6:41 am to
should we discount the HRs he hit off of pitchers that were juicing? Seems like a level playing field to me.

Face it, Arod is easy to pile on because he's a weird guy and social douche. If he had been one of the likable players, how much outrage would there be over his PED usage?
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 6:59 am to
No they get out of it if he retires and Yankees are not pushing for him to get banned because like it or not ARod still puts people in the seats even if it is to boo. They wouldn't mind if it happens but no one is campaigning MLB to ban him like that.
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61834 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 7:22 am to
Lol. No way
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
75333 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 7:48 am to
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frick arod.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Member since Dec 2010
31060 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 8:14 am to
It is really is bullshite how the MLB is handling this. It bothers me how they started Braun's suspensions, but they did not trigger the other ones. They should all start on the same date.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19251 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 10:36 am to
From what the talking heads are saying, MLB is really after him for his attempts to obstruct their investigation.This is what they really want to hammer him with apparently. The allegations are he apparently tried to purchase the incriminating information that BioTech had on him so that he could destroy it. This brings "conduct detrimental to MLB" into the fray & that is totally separate from & handled differently than any PED use penalties. That MLB also tried to buy the information is apparently not an issue. From most accounts, what MLB has on A Rod is a lot more than what they had on Braun & Braun caved in after one meeting.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 10:41 am to
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Nope.

Let them juice.
We're trying to watch people be the best at playing baseball, not being the best at taking drugs.

I want to watch baseball. You want to watch battle-bots or something
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 10:44 am to
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How would they justify a lifetime ban? Even if they treat his original PED use as a first offense, the second strike is supposed to be 100 games. And there's no provision for upping it to a lifetime ban for lying.

If they try to use the "best interests of baseball" clause, it's going to look comical. There have been plenty of other occasions where they could have done that and didn't.
Supposedly Rodriguez is interfering with the investigation by assigning his lawyers to likely witnesses and having them refuse to comply or something. Sort of obstruction of justice. He could very well be banned for life. I'd consider it likely at this point.
Posted by Sophandros
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Posted on 7/24/13 at 10:51 am to
All of that and it's easier to pile on the famous guy than on the guy who is closer to us in talent who's just trying to make it.

Part of the outrage, IMO, is that the superstars really don't need to juice to be good, so it's like they're being greedy and arrogant.

The guy who has toiled away in the minors for years and who feels he needs that edge just to make it seems to get more sympathy from media and fans. The guy who got injured and doesn't want to lose his job is similar.

But A-rod? He's got more millions than a room full of us will see in our lifetimes. That, IMO, is where the outrage comes from.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58030 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 10:57 am to
basically the Yankees are pushing behind closed doors for A-Rod to get banned so they don't have to pay the idiotic salary they gave him.

you know it, I know it, we all know it. He does not put enough butts in seats to justify that money at all. They don't want him around anymore.

its pretty weak shite and I can't f-ing stand A-Rod so its not like I'm on his corner.
This post was edited on 7/24/13 at 10:59 am
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 7/24/13 at 11:14 am to
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Supposedly Rodriguez is interfering with the investigation by assigning his lawyers to likely witnesses and having them refuse to comply or something. Sort of obstruction of justice. He could very well be banned for life. I'd consider it likely at this point.


So witnesses are lawyering up? That's not illegal. What part of the CBA can the commissioner use to justify a life time ban?

I hate A Rod, but the CBA was negotiated. I think the most they can do is suspend him for 50 games, unless he agrees to something more like braun did.

ETA: there is no way A Rod walks away from all that money the yankees have to pay him.
This post was edited on 7/24/13 at 11:15 am
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 12:04 pm to
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So witnesses are lawyering up? That's not illegal.
Not the issue.

If MLB has half the evidence that it sounds like they have, Rodriguez has committed hundreds of offenses, and that would warrant a lifetime ban if MLB was leaning that direction. Also, I'm sure MLB has some type of "when we're investigating something, stay out of the fricking way and don't tamper with shite" rule which, if the reports that A-Rod is doing this are true, would warrant any type of ban MLB would seek.

Not only that, the Players' Union doesn't appear to be backing A-Rod too fervently. Looks like they may let him reap what he's sown.
This post was edited on 7/24/13 at 12:38 pm
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 2:07 pm to
I hate Arod but hate the Yankees more. I'd rather they get stuck with the bill.
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 2:13 pm to
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Not only that, the Players' Union doesn't appear to be backing A-Rod too fervently. Looks like they may let him reap what he's sown.



On one thread you say the union is protecting cheaters, and here you say it's just letting go. Which is it? Or are you going to try to rationalize the dissonance?
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 7/24/13 at 2:15 pm to
Kennesaw Mountain Selig time!!!!
Posted by LL012697
Member since May 2013
3963 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 2:27 pm to
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I hate Arod but hate the Yankees more. I'd rather they get stuck with the bill


Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36105 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 2:30 pm to
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Part of the outrage, IMO, is that the superstars really don't need to juice to be good, so it's like they're being greedy and arrogant.

The guy who has toiled away in the minors for years and who feels he needs that edge just to make it seems to get more sympathy from media and fans. The guy who got injured and doesn't want to lose his job is similar.

But A-rod? He's got more millions than a room full of us will see in our lifetimes. That, IMO, is where the outrage comes from.



Superstar athletes are put on a pedestal if not worshiped by huge numbers of fans. Those same people get really mad at those players when it turns out they were not worth the adulation.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41151 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 2:34 pm to
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No they get out of it if he retires and Yankees are not pushing for him to get banned


Under his contract if he is eligible to play one game & then retires the Yankees owe him $114 million. So yes the Yankees want him banned before that can happen. And no the Yankees aren't going to make their money back on him.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Member since Jul 2009
125386 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 2:53 pm to
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"Fingers crossed!" - Brian Cashman



ant paying that motha frick shiteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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