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1947 MLB American League MVP
Posted on 7/17/10 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 7/17/10 at 9:57 pm
Any explanation for this? How did Ted Williams lose the AL MVP to Joe Dimaggio in 1947?
Joe DiMaggio NYY Games-141 AB-534 Runs-97 Hits-168 HRs-20 RBIs-97 SB-3 BB-64 BA.-315 . OBP-.391 SLG-.522 OPS-.913
Ted Williams BOS Games-156 AB-528 Runs-125 Hits-181 HRs-32 RBIs-114 SB-0 BB-162 BA-.343 OBP-.499 SLG-.634 OPS-1.133
Joe DiMaggio NYY Games-141 AB-534 Runs-97 Hits-168 HRs-20 RBIs-97 SB-3 BB-64 BA.-315 . OBP-.391 SLG-.522 OPS-.913
Ted Williams BOS Games-156 AB-528 Runs-125 Hits-181 HRs-32 RBIs-114 SB-0 BB-162 BA-.343 OBP-.499 SLG-.634 OPS-1.133
This post was edited on 7/17/10 at 9:58 pm
Posted on 7/17/10 at 9:59 pm to Drexel
Media always have loved the Yankees
Posted on 7/17/10 at 10:01 pm to Drexel
The Yankees did win the WS that year
Posted on 7/17/10 at 10:06 pm to Drexel
Wow. Check the stolen bases stat???
I guess the world series is the key. What was bostons record that year?
I guess the world series is the key. What was bostons record that year?
Posted on 7/17/10 at 10:07 pm to Drexel
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Any explanation for this? How did Ted Williams lose the AL MVP to Joe Dimaggio in 1947?
Yankees 97-57
Red Sox 83-71
Same reason Lou Boudreau won it in 1948 even though Dimaggio's stats were better
Posted on 7/17/10 at 10:14 pm to 1ranter1
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Yankees 97-57
Red Sox 83-71
I would understand if the Sox had been last in their division, but they were second to the Yankees, and the stats were so in Williams' favor. That can't make up for the numbers Williams put up. Look at the 1941 MVP voting. Williams hit .406 and led the league in Hrs. I highly doubt that would happen today. I guess that's what i'm saying.
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Posted on 7/17/10 at 10:22 pm to 1ranter1
Boudreau had more runs, hits, and a better batting avg. than DiMaggio in 34 less at bats. There was at least an argument there. In 1947, Williams beat DiMaggio in every single category, save stolen bases. The logic doesn't go that far...
Posted on 7/17/10 at 10:29 pm to Drexel
There are a couple things to keep in mind.
#1- Dimaggio played a more premium, important position and was out of the world good defensively in that position (Think Andruw Jones in his prime good).
#2- There isn't a superstar that played in tougher hitting conditions in his home ballpark that Joe Dimaggio. Left-center field in Yankee Stadium was called Death Valley for a reason. It was well over 450 feet. If Dimaggio had played in another ballpark, he would have easily hit over 500 HRs for his career. Also, the hitting background was brutal especially during the daytime. A lot of stadiums such as Fenway Park had a black tarp cover the center field seats which allowed hitters to pick up the ball from the pitcher better. Yankee Stadium did the exact opposite. They put seats up there in the CF bleachers which were usually filled with fans wearing white. Hitters complained so much about how difficult it was to pick up the ball in the white background that they eventually put a black tarp up to allow hitters to see the ball better. Dimaggio's numbers would have been way better than they were if he played his home games in any other stadium.
#1- Dimaggio played a more premium, important position and was out of the world good defensively in that position (Think Andruw Jones in his prime good).
#2- There isn't a superstar that played in tougher hitting conditions in his home ballpark that Joe Dimaggio. Left-center field in Yankee Stadium was called Death Valley for a reason. It was well over 450 feet. If Dimaggio had played in another ballpark, he would have easily hit over 500 HRs for his career. Also, the hitting background was brutal especially during the daytime. A lot of stadiums such as Fenway Park had a black tarp cover the center field seats which allowed hitters to pick up the ball from the pitcher better. Yankee Stadium did the exact opposite. They put seats up there in the CF bleachers which were usually filled with fans wearing white. Hitters complained so much about how difficult it was to pick up the ball in the white background that they eventually put a black tarp up to allow hitters to see the ball better. Dimaggio's numbers would have been way better than they were if he played his home games in any other stadium.
Posted on 7/17/10 at 10:45 pm to Chatagnier
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Media always have loved the Yankees
And the reporters hated Williams
I believe one Boston writer, "Colonel" Dugan, left Williams off his ballot completely
Posted on 7/17/10 at 10:47 pm to Drexel
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Look at the 1941 MVP voting. Williams hit .406 and led the league in Hrs
Williams himself publicly stated he would have voted for DiMaggio as MVP in 1941
Posted on 7/17/10 at 10:54 pm to Kafka
That's because Ted was a surly a-hole to him. OK, not just to him, but you get my point.
Posted on 7/17/10 at 11:15 pm to Bench McElroy
Thanks. I've been turning this over in my head for the past few years, and you're the first to give a solid explanation. I still believe that at that time, knocking in runs and hitting for average were a high commodity, and noone provided that better than ted. No matter how many Hrs DiMaggio hit, he still didn't record as many RBIs, and had the ball park been that much of a disadvantage, men would have been on base when DiMaggio was up. That said, the Yankees won the pennant. I just don't think the same result would happen today. Great reasoning though, it's hard to argue with
Posted on 7/17/10 at 11:20 pm to Bench McElroy
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Bench McElroy
didnt know you were so old. good info
Posted on 7/17/10 at 11:48 pm to Lester Earl
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didnt know you were so old. good info
I'm not that old but I do read up a lot about sports. There's a lot of information out there, man.
This post was edited on 7/17/10 at 11:49 pm
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