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What would you do if you were me?

Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:56 pm
Posted by Aubs10
Atlanta, GA
Member since Jan 2013
389 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:56 pm
Background of my financial situation:

22 years old
$75,000 annual salary
9% employer match 401k
$20,000 in bank (I've been working for a year)
No debt (paid off car/school)
I live below my means and I usually save 35-50% of my income after all expenses (rent/utilities/gas/food/ect)

The 9% match is fantastic, no doubt, but I'd like to diversify a bit and get ahead of the game while I'm young. Just reading this board and talking to my family it seems like a Roth IRA is the best way to go, which I was recommended to do through Vanguard. It feels wrong to have $20,000 just sitting in the bank earning practically nothing so I'd like to put 35-50% of that in an additional savings/retirement fund.

What would you do if you were in my shoes? I'd like to get an idea of what's out there and funds to invest in.
Posted by CidCock
Member since Sep 2007
Member since Feb 2011
8630 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:59 pm to
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Aubs10


I was close to your situation 8 years ago, making about 55k...so you are a little better off.

Do you plan on buying a house at any point in the near future? 9% is pretty good match, you don't want to save yourself poor...cash is awesome.
Posted by CQQ
Member since Feb 2006
17048 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:01 pm to
quote:

What would you do if you were me?


Rejoice
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:05 pm to
FML
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:06 pm to
Switch places with me.
Posted by Aubs10
Atlanta, GA
Member since Jan 2013
389 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

Do you plan on buying a house at any point in the near future? 9% is pretty good match, you don't want to save yourself poor...cash is awesome.


Yeah this is something that bothers me. I feel like you need a set amount of cash in your account for general expenses, emergencies, and if you want to purchase a house/car. Unfortunately there's no telling how much you should keep in your account and there don't appear to be any rules for it. Whenever I ask, most people say they have around $10,000 in the bank.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83510 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:08 pm to
are you maxing out your 401k?

and definitely max out a roth IRA

good job, you are way ahead of me at that age
Posted by AdamDeMamp
$900.00
Member since Jul 2013
3275 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:10 pm to
Just here to say congrats on your situation. My advice more than anything is to stay the course and don't accumulate debt in any way, shape, or form in the very least.
Posted by LSUAfro
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
12775 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

FML


Seriously. 22?

Oilfield?

Keep taking full 9% match. Maximizing roth is good idea also.

If you plan on purchasing a house in the next 2-3 years, the cash on hand isn't a bad idea either. Having that much liquid will open up possibilities when buying/renovating/furnishing a new home.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

What would you do if you were in my shoes?


I would create a thread that's really a subtle brag.
Posted by whodatigahbait
Uptown
Member since Oct 2007
1748 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

Background of my financial situation:

22 years old
$75,000 annual salary
9% employer match 401k
$20,000 in bank (I've been working for a year)
No debt (paid off car/school)
I live below my means and I usually save 35-50% of my income after all expenses (rent/utilities/gas/food/ect)

The 9% match is fantastic, no doubt, but I'd like to diversify a bit and get ahead of the game while I'm young. Just reading this board and talking to my family it seems like a Roth IRA is the best way to go, which I was recommended to do through Vanguard. It feels wrong to have $20,000 just sitting in the bank earning practically nothing so I'd like to put 35-50% of that in an additional savings/retirement fund.

What would you do if you were in my shoes? I'd like to get an idea of what's out there and funds to invest in.



if you really like the idea of a roth see if you can split your 401K contributions into some combination of traditional 401K and roth 401K...you wont get the tax benefit of traditional but you'll get some money into a tax free account...
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:14 pm to
Honestly, I wouldn't change a thing. At your age and income level, and with that generous an employer match on the 401k, you're already ahead of the game and doing better than 99% of your 22 year old peers.


Taking $5k from that $20k and opening a ROTH wouldn't hurt you. Then you can just start throwing some money in it every month, say $500.

It's a good idea to keep 3-6 months of your salary in some sort of liquid account you can easily access if you were to lose your job for some reason. So I wouldn't take all of that out.
Posted by Aubs10
Atlanta, GA
Member since Jan 2013
389 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

Oilfield?


Was in that for a year before switching to my new job in technology.

Thanks guys. So it's a general consensus that a Roth IRA is the best retirement plan outside of 401k? Will a 401k, Roth IRA, and Social Security(haha) be enough to retire on?
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:18 pm to
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It feels wrong to have $20,000 just sitting in the bank earning practically nothing
What interest rate are you getting on your savings account?
Posted by LSUGUMBO
Shreveport, LA
Member since Sep 2005
8480 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

$20,000 in bank (I've been working for a year)


Our "emergency fund" is about twice that (wife, 2 kids, that's 6-8 months living expenses). Last year, we qualified for a Roth, so I maxed out a Roth for her and 1 for me from this fund. We qualified again this year, so another $11,000 went into our retirement. We have replaced some of this money in our savings account, but the way I see it, if I have about $10,000 in cash and the rest in a Roth, then I have the opportunity to make that money work for me and make a decent return, but I can pull my contributions out in case of emergency and I won't face any penalties.

I'd go ahead and fund a Roth in addition to your 401K, then start saving to buy a house, if that's in your near future plans. Congrats on being in the spot you are at such a young age.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28084 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:21 pm to
quote:

It feels wrong to have $20,000 just sitting in the bank earning practically nothing so I'd like to put 35-50% of that in an additional savings/retirement fund.


I would look to be more toward the 50% end of the spectrum. Obviously, that would put you over the Roth limit, but not a bad idea to get an additional standard brokerage account going.

quote:

I'd like to get an idea of what's out there and funds to invest in.


Yeah, just pick out a couple ETFS and allocate very aggressively (at least 90% equity if not 100%). Just to warn you, a market "correction" is assumed to be very likely over the next 6-12 months; however, this should really not affect you at all given your time horizon.
Posted by Danny Woodhead
Member since Oct 2013
694 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:22 pm to
Throw $5500 into the roth
Posted by Aubs10
Atlanta, GA
Member since Jan 2013
389 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

What interest rate are you getting on your savings account?


Jack Sh*t. Like 1% if that. Thanks Wells Fargo.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28084 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

Thanks guys. So it's a general consensus that a Roth IRA is the best retirement plan outside of 401k? Will a 401k, Roth IRA, and Social Security(haha) be enough to retire on?


Probably not. I'm in the same boat as you in that I'm young and am putting a lot of money away. It will probably be seized from us in 40 years.
Posted by Aubs10
Atlanta, GA
Member since Jan 2013
389 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

I'd go ahead and fund a Roth in addition to your 401K, then start saving to buy a house, if that's in your near future plans


When do I know to start saving for a house and to stop putting large contributions into Roth? I suppose it's all situational?

Also, are you including general living expenses in your "emergency fund"? If not, how much do you have in general expenses?
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