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oldcharlie8
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what to do with a little retirement acct

have 27k in an old acct. with the state. they claim that, if i leave it in there til i'm 60, i will collect 700.00/month for the rest of my life. should i roll it into an IRA or wait 25 more years to collect the 700.00?

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Janky
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re: what to do with a little retirement acct

IRA


oldcharlie8
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re: what to do with a little retirement acct
that's what i was thinking. thanks.



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Broke
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re: what to do with a little retirement acct
Wait, $700 per month or per year?


Volvagia
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I would assume per month....

He can probably already pull 700 per year from it for the rest of his life


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oldcharlie8
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$700 per month


Broke
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That's 8400 per year. You need to evaluate how well you think you can get the IRA to perform.


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If he invests no more money, at a conservative 5% rate, that money grows to roughly $92,000 over 25 years. At a withdrawal rate of 5%, he gets $4600 per year. Far less than he would get keeping it there.


Janky
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If he earned 8.5% (Dave Ramsey says 10% in a good growth stock mutual fund ), then $8400 would represent about a 4% distribution. I personally would rather take my chances myself as opposed leaving it with the state.
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kennypowers816
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That's 8400 per year. You need to evaluate how well you think you can get the IRA to perform.


I agree with this. The other question is how old are you? If you're 59, you're probably not going to outperform what the state is offering. If you're 21, you could definitely outperform it.

Just a thought.

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or wait 25 more years


I don't know... I'd probably consider leaving it with the state. I would completely understand someone not having confidence in the long term sustainability of that program, but I personally wouldn't be overly concerned. I wouldn't mind a little peace of mind knowing that no matter what happens to my individual IRA, I have a fairly sure thing in a $700/month pension.
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Broke
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If he earned 8.5% (Dave Ramsey says 10% in a good growth stock mutual fund ), then $8400 would represent about a 4% distribution. I personally would rather take my chances myself as opposed leaving it with the state.


There are pluses and minuses with each side. It's not a slam dunk either way. So whatever he wants to do would be ok imo.


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Bubba Bexley
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My wife was recently in a similar situation (in Mississippi). I was leaning toward pulling it out, but she wanted to leave it in. By leaving it in, if she goes back to the state she already has those years banked as far as credited service, plus the time for being fully vested has increased from when she started from 4 years to 8 years now. If you take it out and go back to the state, you have the option of paying the money back and getting your service years back. At least that's how I think it works. Reading through all the crap gave me a headache and I had too much going on at the time to really figure it out, so I eventually said to heck with it.


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Vols&Shaft83
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re: what to do with a little retirement acct
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If he earned 8.5% (Dave Ramsey says 10% in a good growth stock mutual fund ), then $8400 would represent about a 4% distribution. I personally would rather take my chances myself as opposed leaving it with the state.


Actually dave says 12% which is doable over a 25 year period, although I wouldn't count on it. But like you I'd rather take my chances at beating 8.5% than take my chances leaving it with the state, who is well-known for its ability to manage money and keep promises


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Volvagia
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If he invests no more money, at a conservative 5% rate, that money grows to roughly $92,000 over 25 years. At a withdrawal rate of 5%, he gets $4600 per year. Far less than he would get keeping it there.


Not really a fair comparison though.

Why would you assume that he would only withdraw the growth?

I know that's the conventional rate, but the state plan sure as hell is dipping into that principal and gambling that he won't live to withdraw for much more than 20 years, letting them keep what's left.

Also, in your hypothetical one would still have 92000 in an account that could be passed on, whereas in the state account you'll have nothing.

These are very important additional points to consider...
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