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What changed your financial future for the better?

Posted on 1/23/15 at 12:50 pm
Posted by OnTheBrink
TN
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 12:50 pm
Thought I would try a different type topic around here.

For me, growing up my parents were always low key, didn't buy anything flashy, saved a lot of money, etc. and I was the same for the most part. When I got out of school and started earning some real money ($26,000/year ) I barely saved anything. I owned a house and had two roommates that paid me rent, but I had less than $1,000 to my name. Movies, video games, eating out all the time and numerous other things took my money each month and I lived paycheck-to-paycheck. I contributed a whopping $25/month towards my retirement. I was going nowhere financially. When I met my wife and we got married and went to St. Lucia I couldn't even pay for some of the stuff we were doing so we had to use her account. I think it was at that point that I realized things had to change for us to have a better future.

It will be 7 years in May for us, and we have went from around $5,000 in savings/retirement to over $115,000 in that span. We didn't make any risky investments to strike it rich, didn't inherit anything, we just buckled down and made an effort to never be in the situation we started in again. I know that amount is meager to some around here, but for us it feels damn good.

And to be honest, I have lurked here for a few years before finally joining, but this forum has opened my eyes to so many things and helped along the way. So to all here, It has also opened my eyes to things like EXXI

So, what changed your outlook/situation for the better?

ETA: To all you young cats around here just starting out and contributing a good amount towards your retirement,
This post was edited on 1/23/15 at 12:54 pm
Posted by Chaplain
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 12:57 pm to
learning about compounding interest changed the game for me in my late teens early twenties.
Posted by OnTheBrink
TN
Member since Mar 2012
5418 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 1:01 pm to
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learning about compounding interest changed the game for me in my late teens early twenties.


My kids get quarterly statements for their savings accounts and I cannot wait to open it with them and show them that your money is growing and they are not even doing anything. Granted its only a penny or two, but to your point, I am trying to teach them earlier about making their money work for them.

Posted by Oenophile Brah
The Edge of Sanity
Member since Jan 2013
7540 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 1:57 pm to
Nice thread idea.

quote:

When I got out of school and started earning some real money ($26,000/year ) I barely saved anything. I owned a house and had two roommates that paid me rent, but I had less than $1,000 to my name.

Feels like we're missing some information here. You owned a house (one that could fit 2 other people) with a job paying $26k a year?

I inherited a little money when I turned 18 which was intended for college expenses. I became so intent on having it for a down payment on a house, I worked multiple jobs throughout college. With TOPS plus income from my different college jobs, I never touched my inheritance. It eventually became my down payment on my first house (live in double).

Posted by Douboy
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
4332 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 1:57 pm to
Great topic.

I had solid examples from my parents on how to live the "right" way, so that definitely gave me a solid base, but I hardly had any money saved when I started college (which I paid for myself).

As cheesy as it may sound, the light bulb didn't go off until I was recommended the book Rich Dad, Poor Dad by a friend after I graduated. Once I read that book, it sparked my interest in business, investing, saving, etc. I obviously learned the more technical stuff from other sources, but good old Robert Kiyosaki got my gears going.
Posted by OnTheBrink
TN
Member since Mar 2012
5418 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

Feels like we're missing some information here. You owned a house (one that could fit 2 other people) with a job paying $26k a year?


Good call! I actually received a THDA loan (probably called something else in LA) where I didn't have to put any money down. The house was a basic 3 bed/2 bath and cost $91,500. I lived in until I get married and moved in with my wife. Kept it and rented it til I had enough and sold it. Biggest pain the arse ever due to certain restrictions with renting a house with a THDA loan and there is a payback percentage if you sell before 9 years.

As far as the renting part, I had to get permission from the mortgage holder to rent the thing. And there was no type of "life changing event" in the contract. Just sucked all the way around.
This post was edited on 1/23/15 at 2:04 pm
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 2:08 pm to
This will sound shallow, but marrying money. I grew up relatively poor and didn't get many financial lessons from my parents, as far as planning for the future. They were very good at teaching me to save, but that was about it.

I had no idea I was marrying into wealth, but my wife has a trust with enough assets in it to retire very comfortably. She didn't tell me about it until we got back from our honeymoon. That certainly does't mean we still aren't planning for the future. We both max out our retirement contributions, contribute to 529 plans for both our kids, have a decent amount in savings, etc. And there are times where we still feel like we're living paycheck-to-paycheck.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50337 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 2:21 pm to
quote:

hat changed your financial future for the better?


Education. And having two parents who worked for the state telling me NEVER to work for the state government.
Posted by ThatsAFactJack
East Coast
Member since Sep 2012
1539 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 2:27 pm to
My wife is an RN. We were basically living check to check. Had a brand new house and nice vehicles. Wife had some medical issues in 2011 where she was not able to work as an RN for almost 2 years. We had to downsize vehicles, drain savings, and borrow money from parents to get us thru that obstacle. She went back to working as an RN in late 2013. Since then we have paid back almost $30,000 to our parents and replenished our savings. Since that moment when we went "oh shite, we are screwed" until today we have lived as frugally as possible. We dump any extra money we have into retirement or savings accounts. We have a small cushion today and will only continue to increase that cushion. It was a real eye opener how quick one can go from "making it" to drowning with one event.
Posted by OnTheBrink
TN
Member since Mar 2012
5418 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 2:31 pm to
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ThatsAFactJack




Hate that you had the medical problems with your wife, but good for you on getting it together!
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 2:54 pm to
Getting a job that has a large percentage of total comp as a bonus.

If I live off of my salary, my savings is taken care for me. It would be a lot harder for me to sock that money away if it was comin in twice a month.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18325 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 3:06 pm to
I haven't hit the "change" yet, but just becoming aware of what it means to save and what kind of implications it can have on my life.

Unfortunately, I started getting into this seriously in June of 2014. At that point, I had quit my job and was getting ready to move for graduate school. I'm on fellowship, so no debt. But I'm a graduate student, married to a teacher, and I have a son. We live paycheck to paycheck.

It's been really frustrating living this way right as I started reading about how to invest, how to save, and how to be secure.

I'm trying to build a guitar student base here, but I haven't had much success because it's a small town. As little as 5 students would help. 10 students, and we could have $10k+ in the bank when I graduate next May.

This post was edited on 1/23/15 at 3:07 pm
Posted by LSUShock
Kansas
Member since Jun 2014
4913 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 6:09 pm to
I'm young, but I would say I have built a pretty solid foundation over the last couple years. Starting a job and making my own money has definitely aided that.

My progress stems from a few different things. One is the fact that although close, my dad and I don't see eye to eye on things, specifically money. I was about 16 when I realized I would be more financially successful than he was. That may sound conceded, but the bottom line is his financial path to date isn't something I wanted to emulate...Despite the fact that he does very well since retiring from the military.

Secondly watching and learning from grandfather on my moms side. He is a 68 year old man born to a rubber worker in Akron. He didn't grow up with much and didn't make much when he was in the Navy. Since then, he has built a large amount of money by living frugally and making smart financial investments. I've constantly hassled him with questions about finances since I first opened a savings account.

I also took out a $5,000 loan from him last year. When I paid it off, he unexpectedly gave it to me and told me to invest it smartly. He knew I was good for it, but wanted to reinforce the responsibility of managing debt, budgeting, etc. He's a pretty awesome guy.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9081 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 6:45 pm to
This will probably sound like a cliche, but it's the truth. It was when I finally acted on what I already knew my weakness was....organization.

By nature, I'm lazy, unless it involves fishing or BJJ. Other than that, I'm basically one lazy mo-fo. However, if tasks are put in front of me, I get them done.

I started my own business a few years back and grew at a decent pace. I was "satisfied" w/ just scraping by, but deep down, I knew I wanted better for myself. So, I finally acted on what I knew my weakness was and hired a secretary.

Business has boomed since then.

BTW, great topic.
This post was edited on 1/23/15 at 6:47 pm
Posted by Bayou Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
3657 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 9:14 pm to
- Father and grandfather taught me about compound interest at an early age (along with lots of other math)

- Started buying XOM stock in fourth grade with a DRIP. Parents matched 100%, so I would throw in $10 or $20 here or there, often more. It was worth over $50,000 by the time I finished college.

- Went to in-state school instead of private school or out-of-state, banking extra money instead of student loans. Figured an engineering degree there was as good as a liberal arts degree at somewhere expensive.

- Started career with 15% going into 401k automatically plus 8% company match, which really added up.

- 15 year loan at low interest rate on first condo allowed me to build some equity at a time when I was single and blowing through most of my paycheck otherwise

- Bought and sold houses at the right time, with no comissions paid on sold homes due to either FSBO or company relocation

- Worked hard in my career to build skills that make money for other people (not just BS bureaucratic stuff) which has led to good raises, job changes for the better, and ultimately equity stakes

- No big expenditures on houses, just sort of moving up gradually as the family expands
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 9:25 pm to
Early on I would listen to the cold-calling stock sellers with their can't miss pitches (see Wolf of Wall Street). I'd drop 2k or 5k, several times, and hope for the best. Lost it all.

Finally bought the blue chips on the Dow, and they split, and split again. Reinvested the dividends. Hold forever, like Buffett says. Bingo.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
17995 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:04 pm to
No place like the Money Board for honesty, and I think it will help me reflect if I type out the entire story.

I grew up what most of you would consider poor. My mother got a $500 social security disability check and my father made around $25k working at a plant. We lived in a small town, and I remember my father setting the mortgage on fire and throwing it into the wood fireplace that heated our modest home.

He worked hard to make ends meet. I barely saw him. When he wasn't working 12 hour shifts 7 days a week, he was installing windows, tilling land, hustling used cars, etc. My mom was worthless and refused to work.

Paying that mortgage off freed up some cash flow, and I made it through high school with things like a decent car, and a little cash in my pocket to take my girl to Sonic and an occasional movie.

No one in my family went to college. It wasn't even a possibility until I was in 11th grade and made a 31 on the ACT. All of a sudden, it was a possibility. My parents really weren't fond of it, my two older brothers worked plant jobs like dad - but I received a combination of scholarship and grants to cover tuition and room and board at Mississippi State.

I met my wife in college and we got married shortly after. She came from a much different background. Her parents were business owners and lived in a $500k house in a gated community. I was awestruck and embarrassed of my humble back story. Almost broke things off because I was so embarrassed.

However, I learned with the watchful eye that like many, it was a front. My in-laws are 7 figures in debt, and a small crisis from losing everything. Katrina almost bankrupted them. By that time, I was a couple years into marriage, $25k in credit card debt because I was emulating my in-laws' lifestyle, and deeply unhappy.

It took my mother in law breaking down to us in tears that it was all a farce. I knew I was heading down the same road. I know its cliche, but I mastered the debt snowball Dave Ramsey plan, and got completely out of debt by 2008. We bought a new house in 2009, and slipped about $10k in debt again, but I had the moment: A job change that took my income from $40,000 to $75,000. I pid off the debt really quickly and started saving. I made it a goal to save 35% of my income.

That slipped down to 20% after our first child was born, but its been a good formula. Our house payment is 18% of our income, and we have no other debt. ETFs have been good to us, and we have a completely different financial future than we both grew up in.

My dad retired, and they have a fixed income, but they make it. My in-laws are approaching $2 MM in debt on their home and business, and they have $10,000 in retirement savings despite my father in law turning 62 this year.

Posted by Huey Lewis
BR
Member since Oct 2013
4643 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:47 pm to
It's hard for me to say just one single thing that really changed my financial future for the better, but if I had to come up with an answer I'd say that I really started gaining some momentum when I made several million dollars buying and selling bitcoins.

Posted by SFCATiger
Marin County
Member since Aug 2006
1079 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:59 pm to
Bought a home in 1999 that has increased in value approximately $950k.
Posted by Blakely Bimbo
Member since Dec 2010
1183 posts
Posted on 1/24/15 at 12:25 pm to
When I first met my husband in the late 70's he drove a Porsche. We dated for about a year and then drifted apart. He married a woman a couple of years later that nearly put him in Bankruptcy.

He divorced her about 18 months later and came knocking back on my door after I broke up with a guy who was financially "toxic". We talked a lot about how we wanted to go on and the lifestyle we wanted for ourselves and our children. One thing that we both agreed was autos and "toys".

I have never cared about what I drove as long as it got me there. Autos, boats, jet skis, motor homes and the like are financial burdens if you have to use credit to purchase. We decided that we wanted our discretionary income to buy "experiences". Remember that term because you will be hearing a lot about it and the economy. My husband and I were decades ahead of trend. By experiences I mean, travel, music, art, social organizations etc. Boomers are buying less stuff and "experiencing" more.

Things don't bring a couple happiness, but stress caused from debt and money woes can destroy a marriage. Laughing, living and loving are worth more than a depreciating SUV.
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