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Posted on 8/10/17 at 11:25 am to
Posted by man117
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2009
674 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 11:25 am to
Ok here are the pics. The street would be in the background and is lower than the property so rainwater in this area flows that way. The pipe drains water in that area and keeps it wet. Then when it rains, the rainwater is just carrying the soil away I guess.


This is how the pipe was originally situated.


Then he put an elbow on it a few days ago.


Here is the erosion. Hard to see but I can get my arm in there.




This post was edited on 8/10/17 at 11:34 am
Posted by man117
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2009
674 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 11:28 am to
1. I guess I need to waste a few hundred dollars on a survey because I need to know exactly where my property line is because it might be on my property.

2. Any suggestions on how to fix the erosion? Have someone shoot polyurethane foam under there? or maybe get concrete in somehow?

I put topsoil in the void originally and it washed away with the quickness. I guess after I fill it, I need to put more compact clay up against the concrete?
This post was edited on 8/10/17 at 11:41 am
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
11348 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 11:31 am to
put an elbow on it....sounds like he knows he has created a problem
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20393 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 12:47 pm to
That's honestly worse than I expected. Your neighbor is being a huge lazy dick and calling your bluff on doing anything. Don't you think that fence is the property line? Why wouldn't it be? That's what I would assume.

Your only real completely legal option is a survey.

But you could also just assume th fence is the line and cut the pipe back to the fence then figure out some sort of way to keep the water on your neighbors property.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43466 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 1:00 pm to
Id put a cap on that fricker with the quickness. Id call him over and show what he did to your driveway and tell him to reroute that pipe to drainage on his property.

I dont think you will ever be able to fix your driveway without tearing it up
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 2:02 pm to
Yep, get a survey to be sure, then tell him to fix it so it's not draining there.

if he says no, politely ask him to leave , then start dumping a sack of ready mix on the pipe right as he is walking away.

I suggest to just say truck it since he clearly doesn't care.
Posted by lighter345
Member since Jan 2009
11864 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 2:06 pm to
Have you checked to see if he pulled all the permits and hired a licensed contractor for the pool and fence install...
Posted by BayouNation
Member since Sep 2008
2008 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 2:39 pm to
If the end of that pipe is on your property, I'd cap it and pour a sack of concrete like others have suggested. He's essentially dumping onto your property.
Posted by man117
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2009
674 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

Have you checked to see if he pulled all the permits and hired a licensed contractor for the pool and fence install...

Not yet. taking things 1 step at a time. A survey has been scheduled.
Posted by man117
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2009
674 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 2:59 pm to
quote:

But before that. Who are you talking to that's telling you this?


Sorry I never responded. A supervisor in the public works department.
Posted by Chris4x4gill2
North Alabama
Member since Nov 2008
3092 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:07 pm to
Why spend money on a survey? Cap it/ block it off and be done with it
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53151 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:27 pm to
Very unsightly as well just plain fricked up. I'd tell ole boy he needed to do something.
Posted by SLafourche07
Member since Feb 2008
9928 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:41 pm to
quote:





Looks like the perfect size for that sump pump I mentioned earlier.
Posted by lsujunky
Down By The River
Member since Jun 2011
2251 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:13 pm to
frick that, if that fence is the property line what he has done is illegal. You can't discharge your pool pump on someone else's property. He would be moving it or replacing his pump because I would pump that line full of epoxy grout.
Posted by YipSkiddlyDooo
Member since Apr 2013
3632 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:29 pm to
Not to mention picking up any expenses involved in fixing your driveway...
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20869 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:35 pm to
quote:

Why spend money on a survey? Cap it/ block it off and be done with it


Because if its on his property he has more legal options to break the neighbors pool pump by capping and plugging it.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:44 pm to
quote:

man117


quote:

Sorry I never responded. A supervisor in the public works department.


Go back to him with the pertinent section of state law I quoted earlier printed out. Show it to him or the manager in public works. Let them know you want his response in writing on City/Parish Letterhead. Inform him you aren't leaving until you get it.

Put your local police juror on speed dial.

This is local government effing up. They know what he did and they either didn't inspect before or after. This is 100% their issue from a liability perspective if they permitted it. He bears responsibility to an extent but if they issued a permit they are screwed.

If they didn't issue a permit it still doesn't matter because their entire reason for existence is to enforce code. Is your city or parish permit official involved?

If so why not? Call them. Tomorrow.
Posted by man117
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2009
674 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:56 pm to
quote:



Looks like the perfect size for that sump pump I mentioned earlier.


It is. I confirmed that today. It was pumping out a bunch of water and flooding toward the street this afternoon. Glad that happened, now I have video.
Posted by man117
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2009
674 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 8:01 pm to
quote:

Go back to him with the pertinent section of state law I quoted earlier printed out.

I emailed it to the guy twice and he said "we can't do anything". He even came out to look at the problem in person. My survey is supposed to be done tomorrow morning. I'll then have a lot more ammo to fight this.
- the survey map (showing the pipe across the property line)
- pics of damage
- video of the pump running

Once I have all of that I can go the" who permitted this route" if I need to.
This post was edited on 8/10/17 at 8:04 pm
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 10:54 pm to
You spent the money for nothing. Them putting in writing that they are refusing to enforce state law or local ordinance is something you merely bring to an attorney or your police juror with the copy of the law.

You then tell them how many zeroes you want behind the number on the check, or they're on the phone telling old boy to fix your shite.

Period.
This post was edited on 8/10/17 at 10:55 pm
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