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Vanguard index fund

Posted on 10/21/14 at 9:03 am
Posted by Sum3rian
Metry
Member since Mar 2012
395 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 9:03 am
Potential young investor here looking to get my feet wet in the stock market. I've done some research into vanguard funds and it seems that this is a pretty safe option that yields solid returns. What are you guys' opinions of index funds? Should I be nervous about the minimum 3k deposit? Again, I'm really green when it comes to the stock market, so any advice from experienced investors is much appreciated. Thanks fellas.
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9908 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 9:25 am to
A lot of people here seem to really like Wellesley Income Fund (VWINX) as a relatively safe one stop fund.

Open a Roth, buy VWINX and let it sit.

Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
26918 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:00 am to
VTSMX, then when you hit 10k, switch to VTSAX.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:11 am to
That's about as easy as it gets
Posted by stonerolledaway
the villages
Member since Jul 2011
982 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:37 am to
If I could go back in time, knowing what i know now, I would have put all in the vanguard total stock index fund and vanguard total bond index fund. probably 80/20 split at first. Or, for the lazy man, all in the vanguard balanced index fund, they keep the stock/bond split at 60/40. With the low cost of vanguard, you keep more. In thirty years, the low cost savings begin to compound phenominally. own the whole market instead of trying to 'beat it'. Read some of the founder's books by John bogle.
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 11:42 am
Posted by Louie T
htx
Member since Dec 2006
36300 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 12:11 pm to
I'm young (finished college in May) & not exactly a savvy investor, but I have 50% of my Roth in VIMAX and the other half in VTSAX.

As mentioned above, the 0.05% expense ratio in VTSAX is huge once you have access to their admiral shares.
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 12:13 pm
Posted by Books
BR
Member since Jun 2005
11174 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

What are you guys' opinions of index funds?
LINK
Will tell you a lot of what you need to know if you're really interested.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
1479 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

Will tell you a lot of what you need to know if you're really interested.


Great advice. That book is easy to understand and gives you everything you need to know about mutual fund investing. Especially the value of index funds.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18293 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:20 pm to
Anyone recommend VFINX? Seems like it's not mentioned much on here.
Posted by jmtigers
1826.71 miles from USC
Member since Sep 2003
4970 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:52 pm to
quote:

VTSAX
Posted by stonerolledaway
the villages
Member since Jul 2011
982 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 3:30 pm to
the original and still excellent index fund....
Posted by Sigma
Fairhope, AL
Member since Dec 2005
3643 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 3:36 pm to
quote:

Anyone recommend VFINX? Seems like it's not mentioned much on here.


It's a good fund. Plenty of people who like to weight their portfolios toward large caps (or de-weight, for that matter) use VFINX alongside other separate mid and small cap funds.

Other people prefer the full market coverage in a single fund, and go with VTSMX.
Posted by Louie T
htx
Member since Dec 2006
36300 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 3:52 pm to
Do you think it's worth splitting between VIMAX & VTSAX to take some extra risk while I'm only 23 or should I just move it all into VTSAX?
Posted by Venelar
The AP
Member since Oct 2010
1134 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 5:16 pm to
Put it all in one until you qualify for admiral shares (10k)
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 5:18 pm to
This
Posted by Louie T
htx
Member since Dec 2006
36300 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 6:24 pm to
VIMAX and VTSAX are both admiral - 0.09% and 0.05% expense ratios respectively.
Posted by wpsnickers
Member since May 2004
2591 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 6:28 pm to
If you're young, I'd recommend Vanguard Small Caps.. Though small caps have greater risk and volatility, they have easily had better returns compared to mid and large caps.
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 6:30 pm
Posted by Louie T
htx
Member since Dec 2006
36300 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 6:35 pm to
Any in particular? VSGAX, VSIAX, or VSMAX look like the popular choices.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39545 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 6:36 pm to
I'm an ETF guy myself. Makes it more fun.
Posted by Sigma
Fairhope, AL
Member since Dec 2005
3643 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 7:37 pm to
quote:

Do you think it's worth splitting between VIMAX & VTSAX to take some extra risk while I'm only 23 or should I just move it all into VTSAX?


Well if we're splitting hairs, VTSAX holds small caps, so you have some overlap there. If you wanted to split it up you'd want VFIAX + VEXAX (small/mid combo fund).

With two funds you can take advantage of price swings and rebalancing. Plus if these are not retirement accounts, and if you need to withdraw, you can pull from the fund that's down. Little stuff like that won't matter much until you get significant money in there, so it just depends on how much you want to monitor it.
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