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re: U.S. Airlines collected $6B in baggage and reservation change fees last year

Posted on 5/15/13 at 7:21 pm to
Posted by sneakytiger
Member since Oct 2007
2471 posts
Posted on 5/15/13 at 7:21 pm to
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Ah yes. More government regulations telling private companies how to run their business. That's what we need.


Except that the "private companies" in this case are really public utilities that were granted the right by "the government" to acquire, own, and operate public assets at the highest level of service and transparency, in exchange for a reasonable return on their investment. I'm not saying that public/private partnerships are a bad thing, but certain trends in the industry like bundling and offering rebates and discounts to new customers reduces transparency and is anticompetitve. I wish Mccain's bill went a step further and proposed to break up the industry between the transportation infrastructure and product itself, because that is the crux of the matter. AT&T should have no fricking say in what some network wants to pipe through to my TV.
This post was edited on 5/15/13 at 7:31 pm
Posted by RunningBlake
Member since Aug 2011
4105 posts
Posted on 5/15/13 at 7:25 pm to
That's terrible.
Posted by BACONisMEATcandy
Member since Dec 2007
46643 posts
Posted on 5/15/13 at 7:51 pm to
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Which means both the consumer and the merchant are.


You never see that charge. Most places you pay the same with a credit/ debit card as you would cash. Of course there are exceptions like there are with everything.

It's similar to the way most pay their taxes. Money is with held and we never see it. So we operate our budget as if it was never there.

If people had to cut a check each month to the gov't rather than having that money withheld they would grab a pitchfork and march the streets of Washington IMHO
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 5/15/13 at 8:11 pm to
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I just feel the baggage fees are more of a nickel and dime technique


1) They still aren't profitable.
2) They simply broke out the fees, you're paying less for the price of putting yourself on board now.
Posted by AUtigerNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2011
17107 posts
Posted on 5/15/13 at 8:29 pm to
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you're paying less for the price of putting yourself on board now


It sure doesn't feel like it, IMO.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26573 posts
Posted on 5/15/13 at 11:12 pm to
Well, at least breaking out the price is good from a consumer standpoint. It won't make the airlines much more profitable but it is nice to choose our options more precisely.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25309 posts
Posted on 5/16/13 at 6:11 am to
Saw an interview with a SWA exec who claims that they have not ruled out using baggage fees.
Posted by BACONisMEATcandy
Member since Dec 2007
46643 posts
Posted on 5/16/13 at 6:13 am to
Southwest is no longer the "cheap" airline they built their reputation on. They are a great airline (regardless of their crazy boarding ways)
Posted by LSUAfro
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
12775 posts
Posted on 5/16/13 at 9:55 am to
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Except that the "private companies" in this case are really public utilities
Cable/data providers aren't utilities and are by no means a necessity to maintain a healthy standard of living. And you can put your quotes away around private companies. Don't need them.
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the government" to acquire, own, and operate public assets at the highest level of service and transparency,
I don't imagine any data/cable providers have acquired any govt properties. They run their lines through public servitude's, but they don't own anything except their own lines.
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I wish Mccain's bill went a step further and proposed to break up the industry between the transportation infrastructure and product itself, because that is the crux of the matter. AT&T should have no fricking say in what some network wants to pipe through to my TV.
You really can't be serious. Yay...Free cable for erybody.

This is a poliboard discussion and a dumb one at that. Also off topic of OP. So, I'll move along.
This post was edited on 5/16/13 at 9:56 am
Posted by sneakytiger
Member since Oct 2007
2471 posts
Posted on 5/16/13 at 7:32 pm to
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Cable/data providers aren't utilities and are by no means a necessity to maintain a healthy standard of living


Really? Because I think most reasonable people would say it's the fricking backbone of modern society.

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You really can't be serious. Yay...Free cable for erybody.


Who said free? I'm suggesting that the industry should be split between those who transport data and those who create and sell the data itself to end users. The term "data" here is obviously the wrong word here, but I think it gets the point across. This isn't a new idea, the FERC did it to the pipeline industry in the 90's and in case you didn't notice, they're still doing pretty well. The concept applies here, after all we're basically talking about data pipelines.

Sorry to the OP for getting off topic.
This post was edited on 5/16/13 at 7:34 pm
Posted by LSUAfro
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
12775 posts
Posted on 5/17/13 at 8:36 am to
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Really? Because I think most reasonable people would say it's the fricking backbone of modern society.
If you think cable providers provide are the backbone of society, you're a fricking simpleton.

Sure. Data is an absolute necessity for most, but that's not the conversation. There are plenty of data provider options in most communities. THERE IS COMPETITION. People bundle because it's easy.

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I'm suggesting that the industry should be split between those who transport data and those who create and sell the data itself to end users


Really is one of the more ridiculous conversations I've had in a while, and I can tell by your logic we won't ever agree on anything, so I'm out.

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Sorry to the OP for getting off topic
Thread ran it's course some time ago and now it's filled w/ crap.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 5/17/13 at 9:39 am to
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Maybe the airlines should look at trying to drop a little of the 347,000 lbs and improve efficiency? Materials/ Flotation devices over land?


Maybe they should just take the average weight of all flight's luggage and disperse the amount INTO the cost of the ticket. When a plane is half full, they are still ok because there is less weight and better ecconmy on the flight.

Bottom line: Tell me what it costs to fly my flight and be done with it!
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 5/17/13 at 10:38 am to
All these additional fees are really starting to annoy me. I booked a flight from MIA to LAS next month. It is about 6 hours and was about $650. Then add in an extra $65 to get a window or aisle seat and $25 for my one checked bag (already have a laptop and hanging clothes to carry on) and I am at $750 for a domestic coach flight in a month. Also was informed it was a $200 fee to change the flight if I need to.

I remember a few years ago when there was no fee to check one bag and $75 to change a flight and no fee to select a window or aisle seat (first come first serve).

Sorta getting pissed at all these extra fees. And this is a business trip I get reimbursed for anyway.
This post was edited on 5/17/13 at 10:39 am
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