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Spousal Surcharge on Health Insurance

Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:17 pm
Posted by EveryonesACoach
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
864 posts
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:17 pm
So my employer is starting benefits enrollment for next year, and there is a new $20 weekly surcharge for a spouse when he/she could be covered by his/her own employer, but chooses not to. I know this has been happening elsewhere, so has anyone with a similar situation not disclosed your spouse has their own health insurance option? Is there any way my company can know my wife is employed and opting out of her company's health coverage? I have to check a yes or no box on our enrollment form, and this is clearly some bullshite fee.
Posted by Tigahs2007
MS
Member since Dec 2013
159 posts
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:30 pm to
My employer started doing this as well. The surcharge is pretty steep too. Some of us have our wives covered on our policy in addition to their own policy, which in that case, the surcharge does not apply. It's only if your spouse declines coverage. I'm pretty sure they can easily find out if your wife is employed and has coverage.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17250 posts
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:31 pm to
bullshite fee? Do you realize the cost the company is incurring to add a spouse? Be thankful it is only $20, and yes if you lie and check the wrong box,if the company finds out it could be grounds for termination or worse
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

Is there any way my company can know my wife is employed and opting out of her company's health coverage? I have to check a yes or no box on our enrollment form, and this is clearly some bullshite fee.


Run up some bills and they WILL find out and refuse payment because of your fraud.
Posted by EveryonesACoach
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
864 posts
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:55 pm to
Spousal premiums are more than double what my employee premium is, which is sky high to begin with and for pretty mediocre coverage. Family plan already costs nearly $10000 in premiums. I guess it's the price I pay for working for a publicly traded company.
Posted by LSU1018
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
7215 posts
Posted on 10/28/15 at 2:36 pm to
I think pretty much all insurances are starting the spousal surcharge.
Posted by Brummy
Central, LA
Member since Oct 2009
4489 posts
Posted on 10/28/15 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

So my employer is starting benefits enrollment for next year, and there is a new $20 weekly surcharge for a spouse when he/she could be covered by his/her own employer, but chooses not to.

Mine charges $125 per month
Posted by StinkBait72
Member since Nov 2011
2057 posts
Posted on 10/28/15 at 3:07 pm to
My wife and I split up our coverage for the first time this year. She took the kids under her and I went solo. After running the numbers the other day I have saved +/- 4k through the first 11 months of the coverage.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
36919 posts
Posted on 10/28/15 at 3:37 pm to
Well you would be committing fraud which could be grounds for termination.

Posted by Layabout
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
11082 posts
Posted on 10/28/15 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

Is there any way my company can know my wife is employed and opting out of her company's health coverage?



It wouldn't surprise me to learn that the insurance companies have created a shared database to check duplicate coverage. They have all of your family SSNs so it wouldn't be that difficult.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 10/28/15 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

It wouldn't surprise me to learn that the insurance companies have created a shared database to check duplicate coverage. They have all of your family SSNs so it wouldn't be that difficult.


i would think that is a HIPAA violation, and how would insurance companies know if you could be covered? Makes no sense.

My wife gets $8k if she declines her work coverage, that was a no brainer since to add her was like 2800 more.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17250 posts
Posted on 10/28/15 at 7:14 pm to
quote:

Spousal premiums are more than double what my employee premium is, which is sky high to begin with


Spousal premium is $~85/month and that is twice your premium? If so you are not talking about the premium you are talking about your portion and you are very lucky. The actual premium for a couple is going to be 700-1200/ month, instead of bitching why not say thanks to your employer?
Posted by CHiPs25
ATL
Member since Apr 2014
2893 posts
Posted on 10/28/15 at 11:26 pm to
My company charges 300/mo for my wife. What's a nick kick in the balls is I'm going through benefits right now and have to turn something in by Friday. Wife hasn't gone through it yet so I can't do a comparison between the 2.
Posted by EveryonesACoach
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
864 posts
Posted on 10/29/15 at 7:03 am to
No, I pay roughly $800 for my health coverage each month. That comes out of my paycheck. 2/3 of that is to have my wife on the plan. The surcharge is now in addition to that. This is all for a not so great High Deductible plan, that still passes on 20% of costs to me even if I meet the deductible. I'll make sure I go thank my employer for this wonderful addition to our benefit package though, arse hat.

Update this morning however, this has been resolved through contacting HR. Because my wife's company does enrollment at a different time of the year, she is technically ineligible for her own employer coverage currently, so I can check "no" and not get hit with the spousal surcharge.
Posted by 3deadtrolls
lafayette
Member since Jan 2014
5651 posts
Posted on 10/29/15 at 12:12 pm to
I'm bringing my wife onto my insurance, since after we became pregnant this year we found out that her employers insurance doesn't cover maternity. If my company has a similar policy, I would have no problem having her keep her work insurance and being covered on mine in addition. It would be cheaper than paying the surcharge.
Posted by CHiPs25
ATL
Member since Apr 2014
2893 posts
Posted on 10/29/15 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

Update this morning however, this has been resolved through contacting HR. Because my wife's company does enrollment at a different time of the year, she is technically ineligible for her own employer coverage currently, so I can check "no" and not get hit with the spousal surcharge.


Explain this. She's technically not ineligible for her own employer coverage it just happens to fall on a different part of the year.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80742 posts
Posted on 10/29/15 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

Family plan already costs nearly $10000 in premiums. I guess it's the price I pay for working for a publicly traded company.

Holy moley

My publicly traded company has family coverage at $160/mo. I'm sitting at $28/month for myself only
Posted by ZZTIGERS
Member since Dec 2007
17064 posts
Posted on 10/29/15 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

My publicly traded company has family coverage at $160/mo. I'm sitting at $28/month for myself only

Mine is $103/month for family coverage. And they don't even give you an option for a spousal surcharge. If your spouse is offered insurance through their company, they're not eligible for coverage at all.
This post was edited on 10/29/15 at 1:23 pm
Posted by EveryonesACoach
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
864 posts
Posted on 10/29/15 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

Explain this.


My guess is that because she is currently covered on my plan, which didn't used to have a spousal surcharge, they're letting this fly? She techinically isn't eligible to enroll in an employee plan at the time our policy begins. I wouldn't try this on my own only to get screwed later, but I've got a copy of the email direct from HR saved to my hard drive and printed out in my desk
Posted by EveryonesACoach
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
864 posts
Posted on 10/29/15 at 1:38 pm to
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Holy moley


Got that right. I don't know much about insurance, but maybe it has something to do with the corporation being self-insured? Either way, other companies in our industry offer MUCH better health care than that. It just isn't a good time to jump jobs for anyone right now.
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