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re: Say you were to "give up" and go with debt consolidation?

Posted on 7/25/16 at 7:34 pm to
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26963 posts
Posted on 7/25/16 at 7:34 pm to
quote:

Read back throu your thread and see where, at least twice, you state that you're gonna have to be the "dick" and spend your spare cash on the debt.


I'm not paying enough attention to expenses. I am as guilty of spending foolish money as she is. I just am going to have to be the one to say "no".

quote:

Are you spending money to impress your spouse,


Been married to long to worry about impressing each other any more.

Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 7/25/16 at 7:46 pm to
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I'm not paying enough attention to expenses. I am as guilty of spending foolish money as she is. I just am going to have to be the one to say "no".


If you're not both saying no. It won't work.

Y'all should literally be saying no to everything that isn't your house payment, utilities, essential food, and fuel.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
11348 posts
Posted on 7/25/16 at 8:07 pm to
We had more debt than any human being had the business of carrying AND more than enough money on hand to wipe it out but would not pull the trigger...made no sense UNTIL we got comfortable emotionally/mentally by assuring we had sufficient reserve if worse case played out...pay all debt and then lose sources of income (jobs).

Bit the big wiener and within three/four months debt was paid, roof didn't cave in and have breathed much easier since....and continue to add to savings.

BTW, our debt was north of 50k, closer to 70k
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20388 posts
Posted on 7/25/16 at 8:27 pm to
OP what is your credit score? Debt consolidation only saves you money by either lowering your interest rate or increasing the time it's due. The last thing you want is to increase the time it's due. If your credit score is good and you don't have any increasingly high CC interest than you aren't going to be able to save more than $50-100 max on $1750 payments. Probably more like $20-40 max a month. That doesn't solve big issues. You certainly won't save $500/ month outside of increasing the amount of payments you make which won't be helping you to pay it off faster.

One easy thing to do is if you have a lot of 'rewards' CC with high interest is to try to get a new card to transfer the debt to a card with 8% or less interest.

The reality is you need a major lifestyle change. It's temporary thing to live extremely cheap to pay stuff off but you still have a long term issue as you should be living 10-20% less than what you earn to save some too.

I found that giving ourselves cash for 3 things helped a lot:
Groceries
Eating out- with that much debt under $50/ month but make it a date to celebrate
Personal splurge
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
25726 posts
Posted on 7/25/16 at 8:28 pm to
In addition to all the spending problems, I would try to pick up extra shifts each month. You will obviously bring in more money, but also won't be spending anything while at work.
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36299 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 12:02 am to
I think you should meet with a financial professional to go over your budget and how to tackle it first and foremost.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 3:21 am to
Are you current with your payments? If so, try calling your credit card issuers and just ask for a rate reduction. They know their competitors are probably waving teaser offers under your nose. It costs absolutely nothing for you to ask.
Posted by BigD13
French Settlement La
Member since Sep 2013
2513 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 6:54 am to
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Dave Ramsey snowball.


You're on the right track! Sell whatever you can and buckle down. 1 hard year is worth way more than what may seem like the easy way out.
50k is not much at all, you can do it

Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
Member since Oct 2007
25396 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 7:05 am to
You've already convinced yourself based on how you and your spouse are wired debt consolidation is the only thing that will work. Some strangers on a message board won't change your opinion is my opinion.

I often speak negatively of Dave Ramsey due to the fact he cost people money who don't live like the people that call in his shows.

You need to follow his message like gospel. You are already mentally financially bankrupt.

Good Luck
This post was edited on 7/26/16 at 7:06 am
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82010 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 9:23 am to
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You've already convinced yourself based on how you and your spouse are wired debt consolidation is the only thing that will work.
That's not what I picked up from his posts at all.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55217 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 9:28 am to
Do they reduce the amount owed as well as lumping them all into one lower interest note?
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
8838 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 10:09 am to
First of all, quit beating yourself up over this. You realize that it was dumb, but it happened and now you need to fix it.

I paid off about $17K in CC debt on my measly single income in less than a year because I finally got serious about it. I used to make the minimum payment and then put at least that much back on the card. It was a shell game with my money. I finally sat down and looked over my bank statements to see where my money was going. Holy Crap!!! Had no idea I was spending that much on going out to eat, stuff that I don't need, and going out to drink.

After that eyeopening I realized if I packed a lunch, stayed home and drank, cooked at home at night that I would have a ton of money leftover to pay off the cards. You have to find out areas that you are foolishly spending your money.

I also would transfer my cards to cards that had at least a year of 0% interest and then pay those off. It took about 10 months, but they got paid off and now I actually have a savings north of $3K and am contributing more into my Roth IRA as well. It feels great and never again will I get myself into that situation again. You can do it!
This post was edited on 7/26/16 at 10:12 am
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26963 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 10:28 am to
quote:

Do they reduce the amount owed as well as lumping them all into one lower interest note?



They do.

But with risk. You need to stop paying your bills. So THEY then negotiate for you. If you are paying, why would credit cards work with you? Of course that comes with risk of a creditor saying piss off and dropped credit score.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26963 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 10:36 am to
quote:

also would transfer my cards to cards that had at least a year of 0% interest and then pay those off. It took about 10 month


We had been doing this but stopped. Economy was better so we were getting turned down. Or there were very few cards with zero interest. Maybe things have changed now with the downturn and global economy?
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55217 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 11:17 am to
I would assume that anyone ready to pull the trigger on this would say frick the credit score for 7 years anyways right ?
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28072 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 12:24 pm to
Man, I am impressed. You are sacking up and you are going to deal with it.

I doubt you ever get in this position again. Ignore the "high and mighty" posters and stick yo your plan.

Working with a debt consolidation company, the kind that works on the credit cards, is definitely not as bad as bankruptcy, but it will impact your score for 2-4 years. That makes sense if you think about it logically; you agreed to pay a certain amount of interest and now you're having them renegotiate that rate for you. If you can refi the debt another way, that would be better. If not, just work a plan through them.

I know people that have done this and, without filing bankruptcy, their credit is in the mid-700s within 2 years.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17252 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 12:35 pm to
put some math to it, $50,000 @ average of 10% paying 1650 month will take about 3 years to pay off, if you want it quicker figure out a way to pay more each month, but i do not think you are in bad enough shape to consolidate or do any program that is going to take a hit on your credit score, and do not take out a personal loan and exchange non secured debt for secured debt

and number one is to stop the bleeding first, do not add anymore debt
Posted by WiscyTiger
Bear Lake, WI
Member since Nov 2008
1415 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

Are all debt consolidation companies scams?


Clark Howard
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20388 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:32 pm to
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Man, I am impressed. You are sacking up and you are going to deal with it.

I doubt you ever get in this position again. Ignore the "high and mighty" posters and stick yo your plan.


This is nothing against you VetteGuy but I completely disagree. He still has a car payment, so he clearly doesn't hate debt that much. He's not using cash only to buy things. He hasn't said he is working a 2nd job or extra hours. He is not selling stuff, and most importantly he says he still has a spending issue.

It is more overwhelmed with being in a huge whole and looking for an easy way out by having debt removed and payments made smaller. There is no easy way, its going to require making more money, selling off things that are not needed, and most importantly cutting spending. None of that the OP has done that he has said.

All going to a third party is going to do is give you one more person that is owed money.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28072 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:37 pm to
I don't disagree with some of your points and as my old Dad used to say, you can't borrow yourself out of debt.

If he can consolidate all the unsecured debt and get a favorable interest rate, and cut up the credit cards, that is the way to go.

If not, the credit counseling deal may be his best option.

Bankruptcy should be his last and final option.

I applaud him for recognizing his mistake and paying back the money. He is acting in a responsible manner when many in this country don't own up to their mistakes.
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