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Posted on 11/19/08 at 9:32 pm
Posted by LSUtigerfan333
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2004
964 posts
Posted on 11/19/08 at 9:32 pm
Anyone think all the current economic problems are an adjustment that has to take place, and that cannot be avoided by a government fix?
Posted by footballislife
Member since Mar 2007
3907 posts
Posted on 11/19/08 at 9:42 pm to
Lots of folks posting here believe that.
Posted by Gridiron Guru
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2007
1441 posts
Posted on 11/19/08 at 11:15 pm to
Any economy needs time to contract & expand. The problem with politicians is they are so worried about their jobs & looking bad they think when the economy is naturally contracting so people can catch their breath & pay on their credit, the politicians continue to cram credit down everyone's throats. They have been so scared of the "R" word that they have overinflated the economy with so much overleveraging that it would have taken a big recession for true recovery to take place. We have a whole new dilema now. Paulsen, Bernacke, & the FDIC chairwoman have angled in the american taxpayer into programs that will not work by virtue of no one ever being able to pay the money back. This will defienitely be the death nail to the american economy. It amazes me that more people don't realize that we are now spending the last money the treasury has. Has anyone asked himself how Paulsen & Bernacke came up with $700 billion figure? That is because it is every dime this country had left in its coffers. We will have no money left to pay the interest on our debt when this money is gone. The US will no longer get any credit world wide & we will be cut off from many commodities & goods we import. This will have an incredible hyperinflationary effect & will lead to rationing.
This post was edited on 11/20/08 at 1:46 am
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
17851 posts
Posted on 11/19/08 at 11:44 pm to

I said when the bailout vote was happening that I didn't think it would help much if at all... exception being the raising of the FDIC insured limits to prevent all out panic.

That said, there are many people a lot smarter than me who think that Paulson letting Lehman Brothers go under was a very big deal. The big domino in the credit freeze.
Posted by Gridiron Guru
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2007
1441 posts
Posted on 11/19/08 at 11:59 pm to
There should have been a credit freeze until the liars & overleveragers were put on the spot & dumped out like the bad seafood they are. Instead, our wonderful government has taken every dime of legitimate liquidity we have in this countryn & continued to prop up the unsavable. This will lead us not into a big recession or even a mild depression, but into the total insolvency of the US monetary system. It is only a matter of how many months. We cannot dig our way out of this one & even if we could, our political leaders don't have the intestinal fortitude to say no.
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
27719 posts
Posted on 11/20/08 at 12:57 pm to
I am not for any bailout. Survival of the fittest. If the car companies fail, someone else will buy them up and take over, just like what happened to the banks and investment firms. The golden parachutes need to stop. I don't believe paying someone when they are no longer working. Pensions should be a thing of the past. 401k are the way to go.
Posted by SnowMan77
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Oct 2008
2242 posts
Posted on 11/20/08 at 2:03 pm to
Considering the last 7 years of economic expansion was propped up by the Feds printing more money, jacking home prices up, having everyone borrow money, crooked rating agencies, high leverage ratios, etc all this was bound to happen. reality will set in and the markets will adjust. it'll be a while though because the government is still pumping money into financial institutions
This post was edited on 11/20/08 at 2:34 pm
Posted by boobie
Celine rules...FWIW
Member since Oct 2008
661 posts
Posted on 11/20/08 at 2:27 pm to
precisely.

anyone who thinks the economy doesn't need a natural recession to continue growth doesn't understand basic economic principles

the more the government tries to stop recession with bailouts, the more i fear for a longer and deeper recession
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