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re: Real Estate Investing......... New update pg 7

Posted on 10/13/15 at 4:48 pm to
Posted by stevengtiger
Member since Jul 2013
2778 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 4:48 pm to
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Trulia


I haven't used them yet. Pretty easy set up? I have looked on there to look at properties but I have not signed up.
Posted by TigerRob20
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2008
3732 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 4:50 pm to
Yes, it was just about as easy as creating a craigslist ad. All of the inquires I have had were quality tenants, and I ended up renting to a young family.
This post was edited on 10/13/15 at 4:51 pm
Posted by Chris4x4gill2
North Alabama
Member since Nov 2008
3092 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 4:54 pm to
what site are you using for the credit / background checks?
Posted by stevengtiger
Member since Jul 2013
2778 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 9:16 am to
BUMP

Just found our next house. Spec's below.

Corner lot home with huge front yard and circle driveway.
1,294 sqft
3 bedrooms 1.5 baths
Original asking $109,000 (reduced to $99,000 after 60 days on market)
Offered $90,000 and he took it (we are paying closing around 3%)

House already has a tenant paying $1,100/month and wants to stay. We could probably get around $1,200/month for it with little work once he leaves. Inspection went well yesterday. All major items (HVAC, electrical systems, roofing, structural) were all in good shape. May need a roof in 5 or so years but for the price we are getting in at, this is of little concern. This will be the third rental and fourth overall property that we will have bought since I started this thread.

The mobile home that we purchased and decided to flip should be closed on in late November.

Again, I'll stop bumping if there is no interest.
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37692 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 9:37 am to
Good for you. What loan terms are you getting?

How are you calculating your rate of return on this?
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79106 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 9:49 am to
keep bumping, i enjoy reading the updates.
Posted by stevengtiger
Member since Jul 2013
2778 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 9:53 am to
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What loan terms are you getting?


I am acutally meeting with our banker this afternoon to get figure out how to proceed with this one. One the first two, we got 15 year at 4.75% after putting down 20%. On the third property (mobile home), we used a credit line loan as we couldn't get a conventional loan until we got the work finished. On this one, we may use a line of credit to purchase then roll into 15 year fixed once everything is done.

quote:

How are you calculating your rate of return on this?


I have been using an excel sheet that I created to keep up with and calculate everything else. I haven't really gone as far as to come up with a rate of return percentage wise. I guess it wouldn't be hard to calculate with my spread sheet. Our goals are to pay off the properties in 10 year or less and right now we are on track.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72424 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 11:34 am to
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we got 15 year at 4.75% after putting down 20%.


meh. You should have gotten a lower interest rate on a 15.

regardless, hope your cap rate and cash on cash return are still very good.
Posted by stevengtiger
Member since Jul 2013
2778 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 8:46 am to
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meh. You should have gotten a lower interest rate on a 15.


On a commercial loan? I consider us pretty lucky to get anything fixed with rental properties. Most of the people I talk to get 5/1 15 year loans. Those rates are lower but not fixed.
Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
Member since Oct 2007
25383 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:06 am to
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commercial loan? I consider us pretty lucky to get anything fixed with rental properties. Most of the people I talk to get 5/1 15 year loans. Those rates are lower but not fixed.


my investors pay about .5 higher than daily rate on investment properties. All fixed terms. Anyone telling you you're lucky to get a fixed product is blowing smoke.
Posted by stevengtiger
Member since Jul 2013
2778 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:27 am to
quote:

Anyone telling you you're lucky to get a fixed product is blowing smoke.


Are these properties new? I was told we could get slightly better terms on newer properties but most of the homes were are buying were built 1960-1970's.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72424 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:53 pm to
quote:

On a commercial loan?


was thinking residential non-owner occupied. thanks for clarifying

quote:

I consider us pretty lucky to get anything fixed with rental properties.



sorry that's just completely wrong

quote:

Those rates are lower but not fixed.


wow
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72424 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:54 pm to
quote:

Anyone telling you you're lucky to get a fixed product is blowing smoke.


bingo
Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
Member since Oct 2007
25383 posts
Posted on 11/7/15 at 7:33 am to
quote:

Are these properties new? I was told we could get slightly better terms on newer properties but most of the homes were are buying were built 1960-1970's.


No, They've only bought a few condos new. Everything else existing construction. But they are not going with a commercial lender either. Commercial is ALWAYS more expensive all things being equal. I think you need to talk to someone else if you're buying residential properties through a commercial lender.
Posted by bobaftt1212
Hills of TN
Member since Mar 2013
1313 posts
Posted on 11/7/15 at 5:04 pm to
I use tenantbackgroundsearch.com
Posted by theoldwiseone33
University of Louisiana
Member since May 2012
492 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 8:08 pm to
4.75% isn't a bad rate for commercial. Lowest I could get was 4.25% but most were around 5% on 15 year.

I went through a very small local bank and got 4.9%, 5 year fixed but amortized over 30 yrs. makes cash flow very nice. I have more than 4 loans so have to go commercial route
Posted by stevengtiger
Member since Jul 2013
2778 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:33 am to
quote:

They've only bought a few condos new


This is good information. Thank yall!

I am still happy banking where we are but I will definitely shop around on our next one.

quote:

I think you need to talk to someone else if you're buying residential properties through a commercial lender.


We are using Bancorp South. We are purchasing the properties with our LLC.
This post was edited on 11/9/15 at 8:37 am
Posted by Zilla
Member since Jul 2005
10599 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 1:39 pm to
don't they say to buy personal, but then transfer to the LLC ?
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72424 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

don't they say to buy personal, but then transfer to the LLC ?




I think he said no before. He wouldn't have to worry about transferring using a quit claim deed to his llc since this is not a residential but commercial loan. Should be under his LLC from the get go if I understood his comments correctly before.
Posted by stevengtiger
Member since Jul 2013
2778 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

Should be under his LLC from the get go if I understood his comments correctly before.


This is correct. We have bought everything in the name of the LLC from the first property.
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