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Mutual fund or etf
Posted on 6/5/13 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 6/5/13 at 1:57 pm
I am buying 1 fund to invest in and forget. Which would you recommend?
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Posted on 6/5/13 at 2:04 pm to tojoe
ABALX
Posted on 6/5/13 at 2:16 pm to Broke
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ABALX
I like that one a lot.
Posted on 6/5/13 at 2:24 pm to tojoe
VAPAX
Posted on 6/5/13 at 2:34 pm to Broke
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ABALX
Yep, that'll work. Even with the loads, American Funds are tough to beat long term.
Posted on 6/5/13 at 2:36 pm to whodatigahbait
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VAPAX
1.63% expense ratio is way too high
Posted on 6/5/13 at 2:43 pm to Broke
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ABALX
I really like American Funds. Their balanced fund is great. Fundamental Investors is a good one for growth and income.
Posted on 6/5/13 at 2:48 pm to gatorsimz
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1.63% expense ratio is way too high
I would worry more about the fund being less than 5 years old.
Posted on 6/5/13 at 3:01 pm to ProjectP2294
I concur dave
Posted on 6/5/13 at 3:04 pm to whodatigahbait
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VAPAX
For a large blended fund, that expense ratio is absurd. And it's not even 3 years old. HORRIBLE SUGGESTION. GTFO
Posted on 6/5/13 at 3:08 pm to I Love Bama
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I concur dave
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Posted on 6/5/13 at 3:11 pm to ProjectP2294
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1.63% expense ratio is way too high
I would worry more about the fund being less than 5 years old.
People on this board care too much about internal fees, while they are important they are not the end all and be all when it comes to fund selection, they are just one of many things to look at.
The mutual fund has been around for less than 5 years but the strategy has been live for over 10 years, and no not back-testing actual money has been in this strategy for that long.
Posted on 6/5/13 at 3:25 pm to whodatigahbait
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People on this board care too much about internal fees
Definitely agree with you on this.
Posted on 6/5/13 at 3:27 pm to whodatigahbait
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People on this board care too much about internal fe
As they should in my opinion. The only reason they should not, is if a fund portfolio has outperformed enough (over a fair time frame) to compensate for the internal expense. This fund hasn't been around enough to show this justification.
Investing in a big, S&P fund with a high expense ratio and no track record is just ignorantly creating undue risk. ABALX has a much better chance year-after-year to outperform.
Posted on 6/5/13 at 3:31 pm to Cmlsu5618
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As they should in my opinion. The only reason they should not, is if a fund portfolio has outperformed enough (over a fair time frame) to compensate for the internal expense. This fund hasn't been around enough to show this justification.
so only being down about 5% in '08 and being up 25% isn't justification enuogh?
Posted on 6/5/13 at 3:35 pm to whodatigahbait
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only being down about 5% in '08
VAPAX - Google Finance
Chart only shows the fund going back to 2010?
Posted on 6/5/13 at 3:45 pm to Cmlsu5618
Once again as I said before the strategy has been run outside of the mutual fund for over 10 years.
Do some real due dilligence outside of google finance and looking at the internal expenses and you might actually learn something.
Do some real due dilligence outside of google finance and looking at the internal expenses and you might actually learn something.
Posted on 6/5/13 at 4:15 pm to whodatigahbait
ETAA: You are totally right. 
This post was edited on 6/5/13 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 6/5/13 at 4:22 pm to Cmlsu5618
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Your totally right.
my totally right?
Posted on 6/5/13 at 7:41 pm to whodatigahbait
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People on this board care too much about internal fees, while they are important they are not the end all and be all when it comes to fund selection, they are just one of many things to look at.
People should care about fees, you're losing 1-1.5% every year. I could invest in Vanguard's 500 Index fund for a .17% expense and it's returning 10.74% since inception. That 1-1.5% equates to thousands of dollars over a long period of time.
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