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re: If you had to pick between Under Armor and Nike stocks today?

Posted on 5/20/16 at 8:46 pm to
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 5/20/16 at 8:46 pm to
Explains why you are bullish. In a MT board stock conversation. That help understand someone's position/opinion.

I own neither, 401 (k) excluded

Eta:helps not help
This post was edited on 5/20/16 at 8:47 pm
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50337 posts
Posted on 5/20/16 at 11:35 pm to
I own stock because I'm bullish on it not the other way around. I've been following them very closely for years. I'm a big fan of management and how they run their company and their long term strategies to compete in the market place. It's the only non O&G stock I've bought in the last 3-4 years. Which says how much I believe in them, I rarely own individual stocks outside of O&G.
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
6687 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 7:57 pm to
Under Armor got slammed in the AH. I thought it was a known about sports authority? I dont know if steph wins another finals over lebron I gotta believe little kids are gonna want stephs over brons.

It just seems like such an easy thing at this point to say todays youth will want steph curry,cam newton,bryce harper, and jordan spieth gear as theyre growing up, those are basically the faces of 4 major sports.

I think im gonna get in there and sell some puts tomorrow and possibly go long some shares
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
6687 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:17 am to
wow kinda shocked -6% on sports authority news, this has to be a long here doesnt it?
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80755 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:19 am to
I bought in at $38 and am really wanting to buy more now. The previous PE values were a joke, but UA is pretty attractive now.
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
6687 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:56 am to
I never knew their whole roster but I just looked at their site

Steph Curry
Jordan Spieth
Cam Newton
Bryce Harper
Clayton Kershaw
Tom Brady
Michael Phelps

Wow those are the cream of the crop in their respective sports. Im shocked actually

Also Interesting the big deal they just signed with UCLA, Rosen has potential to be a superstar by the time his college career ends wonder if that gives them an edge to land him.

Its interesting that so many young MVPs are on board and will be interesting if this generation grows up purchasing all their merchandise vs Nike apparel for sure.
This post was edited on 6/1/16 at 10:00 am
Posted by JLivermore
Wendover
Member since Dec 2015
1415 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 12:38 pm to
I bought a little this morning. I just love it when UA is reacting to news today that we've known since early March....
Posted by TigeRoots
Member since Oct 2008
8505 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 3:52 pm to
Same here. Dove in today. Been watching/waiting for awhile and figured an intraday 5% drop was my trigger.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41157 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 5:43 pm to
Under Armour v Nike-

quote:

* Growth rate. Winner: Under Armour. If there's an allure to Under Armour it comes down to its growth. Last year, Under Armour chalked up a 29% revenue gain and analysts think it will grow another 25% this year, according to S&P Global Market Intelligence. That makes Nike look like it's standing still with 8.2% expected revenue growth in 2016. Investors chasing Under Armour are betting it will be the next $10 billion brand, says Corinna Freedman, analyst at BB&T.

* Valuation. Winner: Nike. Under Armour's fast growth isn't being missed by investors. The stock is trading at almost 70 times its earnings during the past twelve months, which makes the broader market's current 20 P-E look cheap. Nike on the other hand is trading for a much more modest premium of about 25. Some might think Under Armour is worth the higher price for its faster growth. But even if the company achieves lofty expectations for 2017 earnings, the stock is still trading for about 45 times those lofty forecasts. Under Armour's growth is "priced in," says Freedman.


* Stability and durability. Winner: Nike. Even with its stellar growth rate, Under Armour is still tiny compared to Nike. If revenue does hit $5 billion this year at Under Armour, that will still be just 15% of the $33.9 billion revenue expected to be put up by Nike. Nike's sheer size and skill at innovation also makes it a profitability machine. The company's adjusted earnings per share is expected to jump 8.7% this year, not far behind the 11.3% bottom line growth expected at Under Armour. Nike generated $2.1 billion in free cash flow the past 12 months, while Under Armour burned through $370.8 million, Vasilescu says. Nike continues to develop new technology that keeps the brand fresh and preserves profits, says Vasilescu. Its Flyknit cloth technology for shoe uppers, for instance, goes for a premium price but is also less costly to produce since it's a single piece instead of multiple pieces of material that need to be sewn together. On the other hand, Under Armour has more risk, says Paul Swinand, analyst at Morningstar. "They have more things to execute on to continue their growth story," he says. Vasilescu says there have been many Under Armour brands that were supposed to be the "next Nike" but never were.

Wall Street at large likes both Nike and Under Armour, rating both "outperform" and calling for more than 30% upside to the stocks in the next 18 months. But Swinand says for most investors, just go with Nike. "If it was my own money and I had no other consumer names in my portfolio, I’d still prefer Nike, based on that wide moat, its international business, and its returns on capital"
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
6687 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:02 pm to
nike is in correction territory down over 20% from highs I sold some puts for 2018 at 40 and 45 recently if I can steal it cool. Contemplating adding shares here but stock looks broken for the time being
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