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I need help with most efficient way to pay off mortgage.

Posted on 9/18/15 at 3:34 pm
Posted by BullredsRus
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
754 posts
Posted on 9/18/15 at 3:34 pm
I have a 30 year mortgage at 3.625% Note is 1360. I have been paying 2500 and by that calculation I would pay it off in 15 years.

I did some renovation work, and now have an extra 800 monthly note at 7.1% over 15 years.

So I'm still paying the 2500 a month. I have been paying 1485 towards the 30 year note (125 over amount due), and 1015 towards the 15 year note (215 over amount due).

But I am wondering if I would come out ahead putting all the extra principal portion of my payment towards the higher interest rate note, and just paying my regular payment for the actual mortgage until the other is paid off.
Posted by Coon
La 56 Southbound
Member since Feb 2005
18492 posts
Posted on 9/18/15 at 3:38 pm to
800/month for 15 years at a percent double your mortgage? You should put your extra towards that. The money you save paying extra on your mortgage will be surpassed but the extra interest on your renovation payment.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39553 posts
Posted on 9/18/15 at 3:46 pm to
Yes, you should be paying extra on the 7.1% note and not the 3.6% note if you were going to do one or the other.

I would never pay more than the amount owed on the 3.6% but that's just me.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80755 posts
Posted on 9/18/15 at 5:47 pm to
put every extra penny into the higher interest rate note
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28897 posts
Posted on 9/18/15 at 8:40 pm to
[img] at 7.1% over 15 years. [/img]
Highest second mortgage rate I've seen since 2005. And I'm a banker.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 9/18/15 at 8:55 pm to
quote:

Yes, you should be paying extra on the 7.1% note and not the 3.6% note if you were going to do one or the other.


This.

quote:

I would never pay more than the amount owed on the 3.6% but that's just me.


Nope, it's me too. Assuming you can deduct interest off income taxes that's really about 3%. The long term rate of inflation is only 2% so the real cost of capital net of inflation is 1%. If you can't invest better than that you're doing it wrong.
Posted by BullredsRus
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
754 posts
Posted on 9/19/15 at 7:12 am to
Thanks everyone. Kind of confirmed what I thought. So it sounds like the general consensus is after I knock out that second mortgage I should continue paying just my mortgage and invest the rest of that $1200 over-payment into the stock market.

I get the logic there. But there's something about not having a house note before I'm 50 that sounds really appealing.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 9/19/15 at 7:41 am to
quote:

after I knock out that second mortgage I should continue paying just my mortgage and invest the rest


When it only costs 1% in real terms you should definitely invest it somewhere else. Not necessarily stocks, but invest it in something.

Don't worry about having a note at 50, no fortune was ever built without someone else's money. It's all about using someone else's money well instead of poorly.
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13649 posts
Posted on 9/19/15 at 1:16 pm to
I would look into getting it reappraised, and then refinancing the whole thing into one loan. Assuming you added a significant amount of square footage and not just a pool/updated kitchen/etc.
Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
Member since Oct 2007
25389 posts
Posted on 9/19/15 at 3:08 pm to
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7.1% over 15 years


Did you get a hot tub time machine and go back to 1987 to get the loan?
Posted by SomethingLikeA
Member since Jul 2013
1112 posts
Posted on 9/19/15 at 6:22 pm to
Why did your credit score tank? Why do you have a heloan/heloc at 7.1%?
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 9/19/15 at 9:34 pm to
quote:

Why did your credit score tank? Why do you have a heloan/heloc at 7.1%?


I also wondered this.
Posted by BullredsRus
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
754 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 3:03 pm to
My credit score at the time of loan was 791. Got qoutes from thee different banks.

Rate was much better if I did a traditional heloc and had a variable rate, but they all wanted to jump it up a good bit to lock in a rate over a 15 year term.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
30541 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

I would never pay more than the amount owed on the 3.6% but that's just me.


agreed
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:10 pm to
quote:

they all wanted to jump it up a good bit to lock in a rate over a 15 year term.


That's still ridiculously higher than market rate.
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10256 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 11:40 pm to
quote:

I get the logic there. But there's something about not having a house note before I'm 50 that sounds really appealing.


Retiring early is more appealing.

The more you can invest in the early years the better. Compound interest my friend. In just a few years 3.625 will be unheard of. Don't pay a dime over IMO.
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