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How screwed am I by not putting down 20% on a home purchase?
Posted on 7/29/16 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 7/29/16 at 4:16 pm
Full disclosure: I know practically NOTHING about the homebuying process. My adult life to this point I've just rented and have only just now begun looking at purchasing my first place, most likely a condo/townhome simply due to price.
I'd been dreading finding a way to come up with 20% but then saw FHA loans which require as little as 3.5. After some very casual research I see the benefit of the 20% is you avoid PMI, which is great. My situation though is that I'm kind of in between the 2 extremes. I can't put down 20%, that's pretty much certain. However, I would really prefer to put down 10% or above. I also have very good credit so not worried about getting approved.
If I do go the FHA route, would I be better suited just putting down a minimum and saving the cash, or should I try to put down as much as I'm comfortable with? With this being a first purchase, I'm probably not going to stay longer than 5ish years or so, if that makes a difference.
I also have a trusted mortgage lender that I will work with, but it was suggested to wait a few months before really getting started since it won't be til early January that I'll be move-in ready.
I guess what I'm basically asking is...in a ELI5 type of way can you tell me: 1) Should I just put down the minimum payment and keep more cash, 2) put down the max amount I possibly can [and the benefits of doing so], 3) Is there some alternate method I can do to avoid the FHA loan route (it seems that doing this is good for low credit/low income folks but has drawbacks in the long term) but still avoid putting down 20%
I'd been dreading finding a way to come up with 20% but then saw FHA loans which require as little as 3.5. After some very casual research I see the benefit of the 20% is you avoid PMI, which is great. My situation though is that I'm kind of in between the 2 extremes. I can't put down 20%, that's pretty much certain. However, I would really prefer to put down 10% or above. I also have very good credit so not worried about getting approved.
If I do go the FHA route, would I be better suited just putting down a minimum and saving the cash, or should I try to put down as much as I'm comfortable with? With this being a first purchase, I'm probably not going to stay longer than 5ish years or so, if that makes a difference.
I also have a trusted mortgage lender that I will work with, but it was suggested to wait a few months before really getting started since it won't be til early January that I'll be move-in ready.
I guess what I'm basically asking is...in a ELI5 type of way can you tell me: 1) Should I just put down the minimum payment and keep more cash, 2) put down the max amount I possibly can [and the benefits of doing so], 3) Is there some alternate method I can do to avoid the FHA loan route (it seems that doing this is good for low credit/low income folks but has drawbacks in the long term) but still avoid putting down 20%
Posted on 7/29/16 at 4:20 pm to WG_Dawg
Put down 5% for a conventional loan so that you are eligible to get rid of PMI. If you go the FHA route, it's much more difficult to get PMI taken off.
Also, I wouldn't do this at all if you do not plan to have the house in 5 years.
Also, I wouldn't do this at all if you do not plan to have the house in 5 years.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 4:20 pm to WG_Dawg
is this your first home? how long do you plan on living in it?
Posted on 7/29/16 at 4:23 pm to LSUtoOmaha
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Put down 5% for a conventional loan so that you are eligible to get rid of PMI
I thought if you didn't start out with 20%, you have the PMI forever?
Again, I know nothing here. If I put down less than 20, are you saying in time I can get rid of it? What does it take to do that?
Posted on 7/29/16 at 4:24 pm to HailToTheChiz
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is this your first home? how long do you plan on living in it?
first home purchase yes. For how long, hard to say.
I'm 30 and unmarried. I would LIKE to stay put for a while. I like the area I'm in and don't really see much of a need to go anywhere different any time soon. But picturing myself at 35...with a wife and potentially kids in the mix I'm sure things may be different.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 4:24 pm to WG_Dawg
if you have FHA, it's for the life of the loan...as in you have to refinance to a conventional to get rid of it (I believe that is correct)
my thoughts: if you plan on being in the house 5 to 10 years, just do minimum 3.5, pay the PMI and save up for your next residence
my thoughts: if you plan on being in the house 5 to 10 years, just do minimum 3.5, pay the PMI and save up for your next residence
Posted on 7/29/16 at 4:24 pm to WG_Dawg
You can get a conventional, non FHA loan with as little as 5 percent down. You would have the PMI until you reach 20-22% equity I believe.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 4:27 pm to LSUtoOmaha
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You can get a conventional, non FHA loan with as little as 5 percent down.
well that definitely seems like something more suited for me than an FHA loan.
Is that some certain type of loan or do I just let them know I only want to put down 5-10%?
Posted on 7/29/16 at 4:28 pm to LSUtoOmaha
quote:
Put down 5% for a conventional loan so that you are eligible to get rid of PMI. If you go the FHA route, it's much more difficult to get PMI taken off.
This
And the closing costs might be about the same with an FHA as opposed to a convention at 5%
Posted on 7/29/16 at 4:29 pm to WG_Dawg
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Is that some certain type of loan or do I just let them know I only want to put down 5-10%?
just tell your loan officer that you do not want FHA because you dont want the PMI on the life of the loan...then tell them you are willing to put 5% for a conventional loan
Posted on 7/29/16 at 4:30 pm to HailToTheChiz
awesome, that sure seems easy enough.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 4:35 pm to WG_Dawg
good luck.
i'm in my first house. i did FHA. PMI sucks. I plan to only be in this home for about 5-7 years total. Next home, no PMI.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 4:38 pm to HailToTheChiz
here's another question that's gonna seem reeeeeeal dumb.
Whatever my monthly payment is (total including mortgage/interest/whatever else), if I'm comfortable enough doing so is there an advantage to paying more than the minimum?
With renting obviously that would be idiotic. But with a home would it help in ANY way to pay more monthly than I'm required to? I guess if I'm not planning to stay there forever until it's paid off it might not mean much, but I have no idea.
Whatever my monthly payment is (total including mortgage/interest/whatever else), if I'm comfortable enough doing so is there an advantage to paying more than the minimum?
With renting obviously that would be idiotic. But with a home would it help in ANY way to pay more monthly than I'm required to? I guess if I'm not planning to stay there forever until it's paid off it might not mean much, but I have no idea.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 4:40 pm to WG_Dawg
if you arent planning on staying there quite awhile, i personally would not pay more than minimum unless you are just trying to accelerate to get rid of PMI
are you going to do a 15 or 30 yr mortgage?
are you going to do a 15 or 30 yr mortgage?
Posted on 7/29/16 at 4:41 pm to HailToTheChiz
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are you going to do a 15 or 30 yr mortgage?
I don't know
Since this is my first purchase what would you suggest?
Also what are the advantages/disadvantages of a fixed/adjustable rate and which would be better for someone in my shoes?
Posted on 7/29/16 at 4:45 pm to WG_Dawg
man it all just depends
15 year will obviously have a higher payment monthly, because you know, you are paying it off in 15 years
there are obviously benefits to this...if you dont think you will be there 15 years, i would just go with the 30 year, have low payments, but you always still have the option to make higher payments if you feel the need
with rates being as low as they are, go fixed
15 year will obviously have a higher payment monthly, because you know, you are paying it off in 15 years
there are obviously benefits to this...if you dont think you will be there 15 years, i would just go with the 30 year, have low payments, but you always still have the option to make higher payments if you feel the need
with rates being as low as they are, go fixed
Posted on 7/29/16 at 4:45 pm to HailToTheChiz
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if you dont think you will be there 15 years
I can 100% guarantee I will not be there for 15 years.
Like I said I'll be looking at a townhome/condo, houses in the area are just too damn expensive.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 4:49 pm to WG_Dawg
you sound like you are in the position i was, except you got a lil more money to put down for a down payment
if it were me:
30 yr, 5% down, conventional, fixed rate mortgage
boom.
you have a home. build equity. if you reach the percentage to drop PMI, congrats. if you sell before then, oh well.
if it were me:
30 yr, 5% down, conventional, fixed rate mortgage
boom.
you have a home. build equity. if you reach the percentage to drop PMI, congrats. if you sell before then, oh well.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 4:53 pm to HailToTheChiz
quote:
30 yr, 5% down, conventional, fixed rate mortgage
boom.
sounds like a plan.
Thanks
Posted on 7/29/16 at 4:59 pm to WG_Dawg
Go FHA and have the extra cash in your pocket in case you need it
The fear of MI with FHA is hillarious
The fear of MI with FHA is hillarious
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