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How much should I offer?

Posted on 6/14/17 at 2:29 pm
Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2008
33442 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 2:29 pm
So I am renting a house that the landlord wants to sell within the next 6-8 months. I'm interested in making an offer on it and so as to potentially avoid realtor fees, I paid to have it appraised so I could make the owner an offer directly. House appraised for $400,000. Landlord bought it 8 years ago for a steal at $220,000.

What ya think I should go in with as initial offer?
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48888 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 2:33 pm to
knowing the information you just offered to us, and nothing more.....

$400,000
Posted by KarlMalonesFlipPhone
Member since Sep 2015
3848 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 2:33 pm to
I went through the same exact thing last year. He wanted 400, I countered at 320, we met in the middle at 360. Ended up appraising for 410, but he never found out about it.

How good of a relationship do you have with the landlord? Just throw a low ball number out there like 340-360 and see how he reacts.

Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37005 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 2:48 pm to
I'd start at like 350K to see what happens. As the buyer, the realtor fees don't have much to do with you. If he saves 6% fee on a 400K house, that would net him 376K. So that might be my high point.

Having said that... how hot is the market you are in?
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35472 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

Landlord bought it 8 years ago for a steal at $220,000.


Eight years ago the market was at a low across most of the country. He took a calculated risk and it's paying off. I'd hardly call that a steal.
Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2008
33442 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 2:54 pm to
quote:


How good of a relationship do you have with the landlord? Just throw a low ball number out there like 340-360 and see how he reacts.
We're actually friends. I just never see him anymore.
Posted by ThatsAFactJack
East Coast
Member since Sep 2012
1539 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

Neauxla

quote:

We're actually friends. I just never see him anymore.


If you want to stay friends don't lowball him. Make a reasonable offer. He didn't gamble on the house to give a deal to a friend. He gambled to make bank down the road.
Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2008
33442 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

I'd start at like 350K to see what happens. As the buyer, the realtor fees don't have much to do with you. If he saves 6% fee on a 400K house, that would net him 376K. So that might be my high point.

Having said that... how hot is the market you are in?
. Right, I understand he pays the fees. But if he doesn't have pay a 6% fee, he can sell it to me for 6% less.

It's a pretty hot area. Smaller houses that are turn key are selling for 500-550. This house is definitely livable but needs about $100k of work.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35472 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

But if he doesn't have pay a 6% fee, he can sell it to me for 6% less.


Or he might want to sell it for full value and pocket the extra percentage.

I'd make a fair offer but ask for concessions. Ask for money for closing costs. Ask for repairs. You can still get value by getting repairs done that you'd be paying for after closing out of your own pocket.
Posted by AUjim
America
Member since Dec 2012
3662 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 3:09 pm to
I wouldn't offer anything until he tells you what he'd like to get for it-
just lay out what you said-that you are interested and would like to potentially save both of you a few bucks by leaving realtors out of it.
He could say 320,000, and he could say 450,000.
Posted by carlsoda
B Rah
Member since Dec 2009
5776 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 3:43 pm to
Realtor fees are 6% so at least 6 percent lower than the appraised value. Since you have been there i would start at 350. Easier transaction for both yall
Posted by JetFuelTyga
Born in desert,raised in lion's den
Member since Feb 2016
1785 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 4:17 pm to
About treee fiddy.




Maybe the first time in the history of TD that this is a serious response
Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2008
33442 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

About treee fiddy.




Maybe the first time in the history of TD that this is a serious response
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
4485 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 4:45 pm to
How long have you been renting? May be worth discussing if he would consider that money when considering what he'd be willing to sell to you for.
Posted by raw dog
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2011
483 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 5:13 pm to
Deleted, misread previous.
This post was edited on 6/14/17 at 5:14 pm
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9771 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 6:33 pm to
"I wouldn't offer anything until he tells you what he'd like to get for it"

Bingo!

Negotiating 101:

First one to mention price loses.
This post was edited on 6/14/17 at 6:40 pm
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
70840 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 6:40 pm to
quote:

Or he might want to sell it for full value and pocket the extra percentage.


Split the savings and you both win.
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
16169 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 7:46 pm to
quote:

. Right, I understand he pays the fees. But if he doesn't have pay a 6% fee, he can sell it to me for 6% less.


No.

You don't get to save the entire 6%. You can save the 3% that would be paid to your realtor.

He can still sell it by owner to a person with a realtor and still save his 3%.

You only get one side of the deal.
This post was edited on 6/14/17 at 7:47 pm
Posted by bobaftt1212
Hills of TN
Member since Mar 2013
1315 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 9:21 pm to
I'd want him to come up with the first number
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 10:42 pm to
Never, Never, Never make the first offer.
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