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How do you find out the dealer cost on a new vehicle (Ref THE Will Cover Method)

Posted on 7/2/15 at 11:13 am
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 7/2/15 at 11:13 am
I'm not talking about the invoice price. The actual dealer cost. I need to know this in order to start the negotiating process on some outgoing year models in a few months.
This post was edited on 7/2/15 at 11:26 am
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51871 posts
Posted on 7/2/15 at 11:19 am to
I'd imagine that is a closely held secret because people will probably go in the negotiating table thinking that number + $100 is a fair price.
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
9310 posts
Posted on 7/2/15 at 11:25 am to
Agreed... So why is this even a listed negotiating tactic? It's even listed in the Money Talk Guide below:

THE Will Cover Method
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
30828 posts
Posted on 7/2/15 at 11:27 am to
Back in college, a friends uncle owned a dealership. The lowest he would go was dealer cost plus 500.
Posted by Coach Guidry
Member since Nov 2007
2333 posts
Posted on 7/2/15 at 11:30 am to
quote:

'd imagine that is a closely held secret because people will probably go in the negotiating table thinking that number + $100 is a fair price.


They come thinking that number -500.00 is fair. "Yall are making millions so it does not matter blah blah"

Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51871 posts
Posted on 7/2/15 at 11:41 am to
I don't think he suggests knowing what the dealer cost is.

Just know the invoice price and be aware that there is profit for the dealer built into that price.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/2/15 at 11:44 am to
quote:

Coach Guidry


Mind going to my thread about diminished value? I'm curious what you'd value my vehicle at after it's fixed but with the accident claim. Or I could shoot you an email. Either way.

/hijack
Posted by Coach Guidry
Member since Nov 2007
2333 posts
Posted on 7/2/15 at 12:09 pm to
Your Car???
This post was edited on 7/2/15 at 12:09 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
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Posted on 7/2/15 at 12:10 pm to
Yea. I'll just shoot you an email.
Posted by Coach Guidry
Member since Nov 2007
2333 posts
Posted on 7/2/15 at 12:10 pm to
Email me. Make/Model/Mileage.

May take a few minutes to respond.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17250 posts
Posted on 7/2/15 at 12:59 pm to
you will never know the true cost of the car to the dealer, very complicated by design, lots of incentives, hold backs, etc. very few people in the dealership are privy to the full lot of information. and "invoice price" is utter bullshite and means nothing
Posted by Coach Guidry
Member since Nov 2007
2333 posts
Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

ot of information. and "invoice price" is utter bullshite and means nothing


means alot more than nothing...
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
25719 posts
Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:10 pm to
Coach, you sell Hondas correct?
Posted by Coach Guidry
Member since Nov 2007
2333 posts
Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:10 pm to
Yes.
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
22647 posts
Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:15 pm to
dude. I've explained to you all you need to know.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10229 posts
Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:19 pm to
I have a guy go to Milwaukee and buy cars coming off of lease at auction. I pay him fairly for this. The cost to buy the car, and his agreed upon profit. I don't engage dealers. I have nothing against them, it's just very few have ever done any business with me. I don't owe them anything. I'm not going to engage the car salesperson either. Ever.

Review the warranty, factory and aftermarket as applicable. By review, I mean read it, and especially the exclusions. Buy a decent one unless you want to self insure, and forget it.

Get online at insuremyrentalcar.com. Takes care of loss of use (rental income) and diminution of value on rentals.

But a small personal liability umbrella. Maybe 5-6MM.

I'm sure something similar could be done at every locale.

I'm different though. B1G country and all of that.
Posted by saderade
America's City
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Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:37 pm to
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This post was edited on 7/2/15 at 2:29 pm
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17250 posts
Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

means alot more than nothing


means nothing more than sticker price, it is just a number
Posted by Coach Guidry
Member since Nov 2007
2333 posts
Posted on 7/2/15 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

jtopfer@yahoo


YGM.
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Posted on 7/2/15 at 2:29 pm to
Others may scoff at this but I think truecar.com is in ballpark. Thinking about trading my wife's 2012 crosstour for new pilot.
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