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House = (x)household income

Posted on 8/10/15 at 12:21 pm
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
2732 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 12:21 pm
What number are you comfortable with? I realize the safe answers would skew at lower incomes, but let's assume we are talking about average, educated, non-OT ballers.

Wife and I live with zero debt other than mortgage. Our family is outgrowing the 3br2ba we are in and looking for more house.

Getting approved for houses 5-6x our income(20% down) seems insane to me, and there is no way we are buying that much house. On the other hand, those houses sure are nice....
Posted by Coach Guidry
Member since Nov 2007
2333 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 12:31 pm to
25-28% of take home pay...no longer than 15 years.

Thats just my personal method.

If you have zero debt other than mortgage...I see no reason why you cant stretch it a little if you find something you really like.

Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37686 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

On the other hand, those houses sure are nice....


Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
3898 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 12:57 pm to
Don't make the mistake of looking at anything just for fun that is outside the range you plan to pay.
Posted by Dirtman16
Madison, AL
Member since Nov 2012
410 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 1:03 pm to
5-6x???? Good grief. My family is at about 1.8 and that's plenty of house. And that was putting slightly over 20% down from equity in a previous home.
Posted by yellowhammer2098
New Orleans, LA
Member since Mar 2013
3850 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

Don't make the mistake of looking at anything just for fun that is outside the range you plan to pay.



quote:

Wife


Agreed.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

My family is at about 1.8 and that's plenty of house


Yeah, I am at 1.3 right now but will probably be buying within the year.
Posted by eelsuee
2B+!2B
Member since Oct 2004
4502 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 1:22 pm to
I borrowed about 2X my income when I bought my current house.

I will be buying another one in a few years, will certainly stay under 3X.
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
2732 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 1:30 pm to
We are at about 1.5(x) in our current house. My wife just quit work so our income is going down, but we are still comfortable. Houses in the 3 (x) range of just my income are pushing my comfort.
Posted by AUjim
America
Member since Dec 2012
3661 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 1:31 pm to
Smart answer? 25% (of take home) all in payment for 15 years

My actual answer- 25% all in payment over 30.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37704 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 1:35 pm to
I'm at about 2.75x income but both wife and I have substantial guaranteed raises + savings accumulated. In 8 months we should be down to 2.25x income with savings/liquid investments of 12 months


We are very comfortable with our budget but if we were to get to 4x+ income, I don't know how you can survive without going on a ramen noodle diet/making very significant cutbacks


Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
2732 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 1:37 pm to
quote:


Smart answer? 25% (of take home) all in payment for 15 years

My actual answer- 25% all in payment over 30.



That's where I'm at. We are on a 15yr mortgage right now, but moving up to enough house to satisfy the family, and staying on 15yr means an uncomfortable payment. I've resigned myself to the 30yr for this move, and just paying extra when comfortable.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97604 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 1:53 pm to
I think the x increases with income

Can someone who makes 60k a year with a wife and two kids afford a 240k mortgage? Probably not

Can someone who makes 150k a year with a wife and two kids afford a 600k mortgage? I would think so
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

25-28% of take home pay...no longer than 15 years.


25-28% even on a 15 year is tying up a lot of cash flow with housing. Sure its an investment too, but many people would feel cash poor in that scenario.

We are about 9% of gross for our housing. And it feels like we are spending so much on housing.

I couldn't imagine being at 28%.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84039 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 2:03 pm to
We are at 1.7, but my wife is going back to school, so we're a bit higher now I'm glad we weren't any higher back when she was working a full time job.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26571 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

We are about 9% of gross for our housing. And it feels like we are spending so much on housing.


Yes, but where do you live? If I were to spend 9% of gross for housing, it would be in the hood or an hour away.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

Yes, but where do you live? If I were to spend 9% of gross for housing, it would be in the hood or an hour away.


i live about 2 miles from downtown denver.

I think the option you are missing is make more money.


Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15034 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 2:34 pm to
quote:

Yes, but where do you live? If I were to spend 9% of gross for housing, it would be in the hood or an hour away.

Median US household income is $52,000. That would work out to $390 a month on rent/mortgage.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94798 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 2:39 pm to
The 9% rule is a freaking awesome Money talk post

Lets say you do well for yourself and bring in 100k in New Orleans. You are the cream of the crop there.

After 401k, health ins, taaces etc your take home will be around 5k to 5.5k a month. 9% of that is $495 a month. Enjoy living in govt housing
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94798 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

i live about 2 miles from downtown denver. I think the option you are missing is make more money.
So, lets say you ball out and make 300k. Your 9% of net leaves you at a monthly payment of $990 You living in a 440 sq ft crack den two miles from downtown?
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