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Home Renovation Costs as compared to HGTV programs
Posted on 9/14/17 at 11:33 am
Posted on 9/14/17 at 11:33 am
Looking at potentially a large renovation to my current house and trying to get a ballpark estimate of what the cost would be. Not talking about renovating a kitchen here or bathroom there but wholesale moving walls, large structural changes to roof framing, etc. Comparing to shows you see on HGTV, how much percentage off are they from reality?
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 11:51 am to poochie
Most of the ones I have watched, a Sh!t load. Wife mentioned a reno based on a show. Honey, it will only cost $20,000.00.......Once I walked her thru the demo, materials, rebuild, appliance purchases, structural engineer (if needed), permits, inspections, and trade subs, the actual number was closer to $40,000.00.
Makes good TV for the womenfolk though.
Makes good TV for the womenfolk though.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 11:53 am to poochie
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but wholesale moving walls, large structural changes to roof framing, etc.
Just buy a new house
Posted on 9/14/17 at 11:54 am to CoachChappy
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Just buy a new house
love our location
Posted on 9/14/17 at 11:57 am to poochie
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love our location
You better. It ain't going to be cheap or fast. Those shows are usually way off the price of what it costs. Maybe 50%
Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:10 pm to poochie
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Not talking about renovating a kitchen here or bathroom there but wholesale moving walls, large structural changes to roof framing, etc. Comparing to shows you see on HGTV, how much percentage off are they from reality?
Last year I hired a contractor to renovate a master bathroom, a guest bathroom, and remove paneling from a bedroom and living room and sheetrocked both rooms.
At the same time, I replaced floors in roughtly 2,100 square feet in my house with a very nice glue-down engineered hardwood.
My wife and I did every bit of demolition and painting.
We did quartzite countertops, a built in 4' x 8' tiled shower in the master (no bathtub in master, reused the existing tub in guest bathroom).
Master bathroom has a double vanity with center cabinet on top to the ceiling. Guest bathroom has a very single typical vanity.
For tile material we went with material that was (on average) around $5.00/sq. ft.
No walls were moved, no structural changes required. Very minor electrical and plumbing.
Any guess on what that (relatively speaking) minor project cost? What do you think HGTV would say it would cost?
This post was edited on 9/14/17 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:12 pm to CoachChappy
I have always thought that one that takes place in Waco probably gets a volume discount on some stuff, or just small market prices.
but even those numbers seem way off from what is most likely reality.
but even those numbers seem way off from what is most likely reality.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:13 pm to cjared036
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I have always thought that one that takes place in Waco probably gets a volume discount on some stuff, or just small market prices.
but even those numbers seem way off from what is most likely reality
Some of the numbers seem reasonable. For instance, if they have to replace a drain pipe for $3,000. Yea, I can see that (been there, done that, got the T-shirt.)
Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:43 pm to lnomm34
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Last year I hired a contractor to renovate a master bathroom, a guest bathroom, and remove paneling from a bedroom and living room and sheetrocked both rooms.
At the same time, I replaced floors in roughtly 2,100 square feet in my house with a very nice glue-down engineered hardwood.
My wife and I did every bit of demolition and painting.
We did quartzite countertops, a built in 4' x 8' tiled shower in the master (no bathtub in master, reused the existing tub in guest bathroom).
Master bathroom has a double vanity with center cabinet on top to the ceiling. Guest bathroom has a very single typical vanity.
For tile material we went with material that was (on average) around $5.00/sq. ft.
No walls were moved, no structural changes required. Very minor electrical and plumbing.
Any guess on what that (relatively speaking) minor project cost? What do you think HGTV would say it would cost?
I'm guessing HGTV says $20k and you spent $35k
Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:46 pm to lnomm34
you tell us.
This post was edited on 9/14/17 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:57 pm to poochie
If you want a reno to cost what it cost on TV, you need to do a "reality" show. Otherwise it cost exponentially more than TV. TV is make believe, even reality shows.
This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 6:16 am
Posted on 9/14/17 at 2:20 pm to achenator
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Last year I hired a contractor to renovate a master bathroom, a guest bathroom, and remove paneling from a bedroom and living room and sheetrocked both rooms.
At the same time, I replaced floors in roughtly 2,100 square feet in my house with a very nice glue-down engineered hardwood.
My wife and I did every bit of demolition and painting.
We did quartzite countertops, a built in 4' x 8' tiled shower in the master (no bathtub in master, reused the existing tub in guest bathroom).
Master bathroom has a double vanity with center cabinet on top to the ceiling. Guest bathroom has a very single typical vanity.
For tile material we went with material that was (on average) around $5.00/sq. ft.
No walls were moved, no structural changes required. Very minor electrical and plumbing.
Any guess on what that (relatively speaking) minor project cost? What do you think HGTV would say it would cost?
I'm guessing HGTV says $20k and you spent $35k
Pffft. I wish.
HGTV might say $35k. I spent around $70k.
$25k on flooring and installation (I removed old flooring and prepped slab).
The two bathrooms, living room, and bedroom cost me $40k for contractor's work, plus another $5k for plumbing fixtures I bought and supplies for painting, etc.
I love when they're going room by room and talking about how much new flooring, paint, lighting, etc. will cost and then pop up a number for total cost for renovating. New kitchen for instance . . . rip out the old cabinets, blow out this wall, install a beam, drywall, all new cabinets, new countertops and backsplash, apron sink, all new appliances, new lighting, replace the floors, etc. . . . $25k.
This post was edited on 9/14/17 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 9/14/17 at 2:45 pm to lnomm34
I think either you went with super high end stuff or got screwed. $7/sf just for installation?
Posted on 9/14/17 at 2:53 pm to lnomm34
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I love when they're going room by room and talking about how much new flooring, paint, lighting, etc. will cost and then pop up a number for total cost for renovating. New kitchen for instance . . . rip out the old cabinets, blow out this wall, install a beam, drywall, all new cabinets, new countertops and backsplash, apron sink, all new appliances, new lighting, replace the floors, etc. . . . $25k.
Builder grade and volume discount from the GC and in a price-competitive market. Tarek and Christina, for instance.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 2:58 pm to poochie
The shows other than Fixer Upper (waco) are usually higher than what it costs around here where I am. I'd guess around 20% high based on what I have run into.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 3:25 pm to poochie
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I think either you went with super high end stuff or got screwed. $7/sf just for installation?
Material was $6.59/sq. ft. for 2170 feet. $14,300.30
Adhesive was $1949.85
Self Leveling compound and labor was $1105
T-molding $220.00
Installation $2.25/sq. ft. $4,882.50
Intstall 3/4 round $750
And, let's not forget taxes. $1,705.52
Posted on 9/14/17 at 3:31 pm to lnomm34
so the flooring didn't average $5/sf like you said.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 3:39 pm to poochie
I said the TILE MATERIAL averaged around $5.00/sq. ft.
We paid right at $25k for the engineered wood flooring in 2170 square feet of the rest of the house. Make sense?
I said this:
We paid right at $25k for the engineered wood flooring in 2170 square feet of the rest of the house. Make sense?
I said this:
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At the same time, I replaced floors in roughtly 2,100 square feet in my house with a very nice glue-down engineered hardwood.
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Master bathroom has a double vanity with center cabinet on top to the ceiling. Guest bathroom has a very single typical vanity.
For tile material we went with material that was (on average) around $5.00/sq. ft.
This post was edited on 9/14/17 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 9/14/17 at 8:33 pm to lnomm34
Yeah I can see it now, I really didn't read the work description that well. My buddy just did the same in old metry last year add a kitchen and 2 new AC units and spent like $140k so yeah u are right there.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 9:55 pm to poochie
they are way off the actual cost. As someone else said the only costs that seem legit is when they are forced to call another contractor (plumbing issue, electric, etc). If they have their own crew and are doing the work themselves they are avoiding any type of markup which probably averages 20-30%.
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