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Energy Bill on New Larger House in South Louisiana?

Posted on 2/25/15 at 7:53 am
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
8362 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 7:53 am
First off am I wrong that heating/air is about 90% of your electric bill?

We just built a new house and the energy bill seems high even for a pretty large house at 3500 sq ft. The heating is all electric and we keep about 3000 sq ft. of that at 72 degrees. The 500 sq ft. upstairs bonus room zone is off. The windows are energy efficient and it's blown in insulation. Just got the Entergy bill right at $350. Does this sound right? I kinda thought the bill would be lower during the Winter like my old house so I'm really concerned what'll happen once the Louisiana heat hits!
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
166134 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 7:55 am to
That's high as frick for winter

U do have electric heating though but still
This post was edited on 2/25/15 at 7:56 am
Posted by Blakely Bimbo
Member since Dec 2010
1183 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 7:58 am to
Try reducing the thermostat to 68. We keep ours at 68. Just wear light sweater around house.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166134 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 7:59 am to
72 is high for heating, we do 69 usually at most
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
8362 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 8:10 am to
We'll try that for sure. Damn thing doesn't seem like it runs very often at all and when it does run it's not for long. I don't really have much basis for comparison since the old house was 30+ years old and half the size of this one.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 8:12 am to
But you don't have a gas bill now, so how does that compare to your old place when you add the gas and electricity?
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 8:14 am to
I think it sounds reasonable considering you have electric heat


72 is pretty high for heating IMO


Just wait until you get a bill in the summer
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
8362 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 8:40 am to
Well I guess we'll turn it down to 69 and see. Got the bill yesterday evening so started getting suspicious and looking around. The thermometer my wife has in the main room was reading 75F this morning so I kinda wonder if the thermostat coordination with the actual temperature is off.

The whole thing is a learning experience. Starter home was 1400 sq. ft. gas/electric and 35 years old. Supposedly new house is energy efficient windows, new insulation, new units, yada yada.
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
25728 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 9:13 am to
Do you have it at 72 at all times? You may want to invest in a nest thermostat
Posted by AUjim
America
Member since Dec 2012
3662 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 9:16 am to
Going through the exact same thing right now. Our new house is all electric, and only 2600 sq. ft. We got an extremely high electric bill last month and I almost shite a brick. Went to work immediately trying to figure out how to shave some bucks. Couple of quick things I've learned:

1. Heat pumps are not the best for heating in really cold weather. Relatively inefficient actually.

2. We had brand new Honeywell thermostats. They don't run on a temperature differential like 'old' thermostats do. Both of my units were short cycling like crazy, running the bill up and putting unnecessary wear and tear on the compressor. Went and bought cheap LUX programmable thermostats from Lowes, (on sale for $35 each). Set them to about 65 while we're gone and around 69 about 15 minutes before we usually get home. This alone saved me about 50 bucks on the power bill last month...
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 9:27 am to
Holy moly, that seems way high. I'm in ~2200 sq ft of new construction and last month's (high) bill was $80. Typical bill is around $40, but I have gas heat.

Are you sure it's all the heating that's running up the bill? Lots of AC adapters are "vampires"....drawing power even though no device is plugged in for charging. If you've got phone chargers, laptop chargers, audio components, camera battery chargers, game systems, etc, you may be burning $20-$50/mo without doing anything at all. Go around unplugging all those chargers, or plug them into power strips and switch off the strips.

Also consider switching to LED lightbulbs. Yes, they're an initial kinda pricey investment, but they last for years and years and burn so little power it's crazy. If you don't want to replace all of them, figure out which fixtures are used the most and replace those. I swapped out the 9(!) can light bulbs in my kitchen for LEDs...it made a diff of about $5/mo because I leave those lights on virtually all the time I'm in the house. The LEDs generate little heat, so they don't add to your cooling load in summer (unlike conventional bulbs).

If you have automatic outdoor lighting, make sure all of those bulbs are LEDs. Halogens are bright, but not very efficient.

+1 on a programmable thermostat. Like a prev poster says, program the thing to cool off when you're not home and taper up the heat when you return. Most have a 7-day variable program, so you can adjust for the weekends or day off.

Also agree that 72 is way too high. I like 66/68. Yes, it will seem cool, but that's what flannel jammies and LL Bean slippers are for. A down comforter for your bed will cost you less than the power bill.
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
8362 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 10:11 am to
Yeah it's on 72 all the time but I think it's just because the wife and I are not very temperature sensitive and that's the temp we set it to.

I'm going to start with adjusting the thermostat to 67F and then dig in to other things if it doesn't change much.
Posted by MamouTiger65
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Oct 2007
794 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 10:31 am to
quote:

Are you sure it's all the heating that's running up the bill? Lots of AC adapters are "vampires"....drawing power even though no device is plugged in for charging. If you've got phone chargers, laptop chargers, audio components, camera battery chargers, game systems, etc, you may be burning $20-$50/mo without doing anything at all. Go around unplugging all those chargers, or plug them into power strips and switch off the strips.


They sell devices for around $20 that you can plug into the wall then plug in your tv, phone, power strip and it tells you how much power it is using. It also lets you put in your KW rate to figure out how much each item cost per month/year.

I did this last year and was disappointed with how low the estimates were. I'd basically save $10 a month by unplugging everything every day when not in use.

If you have a pool, make sure your pump isn't running too long. My pool pump is second only to the A/C in energy consumption.
Posted by achenator
Member since Oct 2014
2944 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 10:31 am to
Since this is your first bill is it possible that you have more than a month's worth of days? My bill with cleo is running like 375 right now but we are 4400 living (3 units) and have the pool running 12 hours a day.
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
25728 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:35 am to
I have always heard cable (or directv) boxes use a lot of energy so I always turn mine off.
I have only been in my house for a few weeks so I have no idea what the energy bill will be. But everything possible is gas and I have spray foam so I'm hoping it is similar to my old bill even with an increase in house size. Plus it is nice to have an app controlled thermostat for a day like today when I forgot to turn down the heat before I left
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
8362 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:59 am to
It's the second month's bill. First was for half a month. Everyone said to give it to the second bill to worry since we had all the doors open moving, etc.

We have 3 zones but only 2 are running since the upstairs is off. So we're heating 3000 sq ft. No pool, hot tub or anything like that.

My wife loves turning all the flood lights on light we're running a prison and trying to ensure we have eyes on everything. Leaves them on all the time. So probably going to put the smack on that.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166134 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

turning all the flood lights on


I swapped mine out with motion sensors, you are not at an advantage if they are constantly on, seeing it on gives you an advantage alert.
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
8362 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 12:31 pm to
Yeah we don't have cable boxes. Have Internet + Chromecast. A few laptops which are usually off. Wife is a light nazi in the house so everything is usually off when not in use.(except for the flood lights of course)
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

(except for the flood lights of course)

then LED floods are your friend. Light Bulb Depot: LINK
You can get LEDs to replace most any bulb from standard to halogen.
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
19665 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 1:19 pm to
72deg is the reason your bill is high. Unit is probably constantly running to maintain that temp. 68 is what you need to aim for if you are looking for a normal to low energy bill. 74 in the summer. Can be difficult at times but you have to pay the price to be "comfortable"
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