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Dow futures fall 100 points

Posted on 8/23/15 at 5:37 pm
Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 8/23/15 at 5:37 pm
put your diapers on
another bloodbath

Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53800 posts
Posted on 8/23/15 at 5:59 pm to
Ive called it for over a month. The market will be between9000-10,000 by mid october.

all of my money is out of the market. China has devalued their currency in an attempt to crash our economy and they haven't even dumped their Treasury Bills yet. It's coming.
Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
23482 posts
Posted on 8/23/15 at 6:04 pm to
they already dumped half a trillions of treasury, and market didn't react. US market is strong. When they dumped others bought. minimal impact
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10229 posts
Posted on 8/23/15 at 6:06 pm to
Saudi market down big. Seling picked up at the end of the day Friday so this isn't a huge surprise. Everyone having their portfolios properly insured (or having some taken profits and moved to cash or pm's) should sit back and watch the entertainment unfold. Maybe even look for some opportunity.

Might be the correction. Might not. If it is, people will be surprised. The only thing that surprises me is how someone can be surprised by something that happens repeatedly throughout history.

Edit - And keep repeating the same behaviors.
This post was edited on 8/23/15 at 6:07 pm
Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
23482 posts
Posted on 8/23/15 at 6:10 pm to
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Saudi market down big


frick them big time
lets see how much more pain they can suffer before they hedge on oil
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
12640 posts
Posted on 8/23/15 at 6:11 pm to
I bought the weekend edition of the WSJ. The f'ing business writer opinion was basically anything could happen, 50% drop or rally back to new highs. Since Wall street is not really an easy place to make money, to easy to think its gonna fall big in the fall. More likely major drop doesn't happen until 2016. I'll go with down 300 in the AM , up 300 in the PM.
This post was edited on 8/23/15 at 6:13 pm
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53800 posts
Posted on 8/23/15 at 6:12 pm to
quote:

they already dumped half a trillions of treasury, and market didn't react. US market is strong. When they dumped others bought. minimal impact


I think they market is strong because there are not a lot of other places to put money. When the feds move the interest rate the market will move negatively I think. I think we are under a bigger bubble than we were in 2008. The answer to a bad economy is not to print more money and in 2008 that is what we did.

Just my opinion.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10229 posts
Posted on 8/23/15 at 6:12 pm to
I don't understand what you mean by hedge on oil? I know they're producing a ton load of it, mostly for market share.

They're certainly not losing any money on oil.
Posted by LSU1NSEC
Member since Sep 2007
17243 posts
Posted on 8/23/15 at 6:20 pm to
crude trying to move below 40
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53800 posts
Posted on 8/23/15 at 6:21 pm to
quote:

They're certainly not losing any money on oil.


They are not losing money on oil but they are not making the money on oil that they once did. The out of ground cost of oil in regions outside of the middle east is about 17 dollars a barrel vs. 4 dollars a barrel in the Middle East. By making so many other sources of oil available we have increased the availability of oil which has driven the cost down from over 100 dollars a barrel to around 40 and it will probably bottom out somewhere near 32 dollars a barrel. Private investors with pumps in the US have halted production to avoid losing money.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80087 posts
Posted on 8/23/15 at 6:22 pm to
quote:

put your diapers on
another bloodbath



I've got 20+ years until retirement, so no worries. Just an opportunity to up contributions.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48887 posts
Posted on 8/23/15 at 6:46 pm to
quote:

all of my money is out of the market


how old are you?
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58088 posts
Posted on 8/23/15 at 6:55 pm to
Doesn't matter, he's an expert in all things
Posted by Reubaltaich
A nation under duress
Member since Jun 2006
4962 posts
Posted on 8/23/15 at 7:09 pm to
Just about every market is down:

LINK
Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
23482 posts
Posted on 8/23/15 at 7:16 pm to
quote:

I don't understand what you mean by hedge on oil?


lower their production and stop their attempts to get the US shale producers out of business


quote:

They're certainly not losing any money on oil.


yeah but they can't sustain their budget on lower prices like that for a long time
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 8/23/15 at 7:20 pm to
I didn't think China's market opened until 8:30 our time. That is the one to be watching.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10229 posts
Posted on 8/23/15 at 7:23 pm to
Janky, you're an adviser I gather. Why aren't more people conservative, and why don't they use VIX options to insure their portfolios? I just don't understand all this preaching about not taking risks, and the least risky thing to do is buy downside insurance.

I consider this lack of common sense advice maleficent.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48887 posts
Posted on 8/23/15 at 7:45 pm to
quote:

Doesn't matter, he's an expert in all things


Not sure if sarcasm.

I read it as sarcasm.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10229 posts
Posted on 8/23/15 at 7:47 pm to
Not extremely heavy volume. I guess we'll see what happens overnight. Yen is up.
Posted by LSU1NSEC
Member since Sep 2007
17243 posts
Posted on 8/23/15 at 8:01 pm to
quote:

Yen is up.


safe haven
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