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Do professional Golfers pay taxes in the State they win a tournament or...

Posted on 6/12/17 at 6:04 pm
Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
6691 posts
Posted on 6/12/17 at 6:04 pm
The a State for hey live?!

Posted by kaaj24
Dallas
Member since Jan 2010
601 posts
Posted on 6/12/17 at 6:21 pm to
They are likely doing a state tax return for the tournament location and then will get credit for their home state tax return (if applicable)
Posted by Stateguy
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
885 posts
Posted on 6/12/17 at 6:32 pm to
Along those lines - read an article that said CA instituted a tax (early 90s) to tax pro athletes for games played in CA. Think it started with Jordan when they beat the Lakers. Essentially, they are taxed 1/82 of there pay for a game played there. Applies to all leagues I think. Not sure how playoff stuff happens. Article said basically every state now has this.

Accountants must love billing for that - realize Jordan easily affords it, but minimum salary guys paying taxes in 15 (whatever the number is) states?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 6/12/17 at 6:52 pm to
It's called the "jock tax." Basically all the cities with professional sports franchises create a tax specifically directed at professional athletes. Here's an article.

jock tax
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37004 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 11:51 am to
Not just the players. We have a client who is a coach for a professional sports franchise and he has the same issue.

And it's a pain in the rear. In most cases, withholding is required, so the only person getting rich off the deal is the payroll company. We have to file a return where there is generally very little owed or refunded, and it just pisses off the client.

And because CPAs tend to eat their own, enough of them will do the state returns "for free" so that it prevents us for charging much for them. So we just use it as training for staff.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35472 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

The a State for hey live?!


Da fuq did you just type?
Posted by BlackenedOut
The Big Sleazy
Member since Feb 2011
5800 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 4:29 pm to
I remember seeing a deadspin post a few years back that was a screen shot of some baseball player's paycheck. With all the taxes withdrawn for each city/state he played in, guy only took home about $2 million every two weeks.
Posted by Hazelnut
Member since May 2011
16431 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 10:51 am to
I always thought the rule was if you perform work in that state then you technically have to pay taxes on income earned while working in that state. Like if my job is in Louisiana, but they send me to Mississippi for a week or two, then I technically have to file a mississippi state tax return.

But the answers about this Jock tax make me think it's something just for pro athletes. Can anyone explain the rules in the scenario I gave?
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
3466 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

It's called the "jock tax." Basically all the cities with professional sports franchises create a tax specifically directed at professional athletes. Here's an article.

jock tax


Reading this; it's damn brutal on folks like the equipment managers. Can't believe they have to pay that tax as well since they are affiliated with the team.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

I always thought the rule was if you perform work in that state then you technically have to pay taxes on income earned while working in that state. Like if my job is in Louisiana, but they send me to Mississippi for a week or two, then I technically have to file a mississippi state tax return.

But the answers about this Jock tax make me think it's something just for pro athletes. Can anyone explain the rules in the scenario I gave?


It depends on the state because they have different tax laws, but yes you could possibly owe tax in Mississippi. A lot of states, though allow you to deduct taxes paid in another state. The case with professional athletes though, is most of these are city taxes. Most cities that have these franchises have created municipal taxes that are really aggressive on the way they calculate tax owed. This was just litigated in Ohio State Supreme Court. Look up Jeff Saturday v Ohio Supreme Court if you're interested, there's a lot of info on it.
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 10:40 pm to
Buddy works as district salesman in 4 states - Miss/Ala/Fla/Georgia.

Rents Apt. in Hattiesburg and only pays Mississippi tax.

Is he doing it wrong?

Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 11:53 pm to
quote:

Buddy works as district salesman in 4 states - Miss/Ala/Fla/Georgia.

Rents Apt. in Hattiesburg and only pays Mississippi tax.

Is he doing it wrong?


I'm not familiar with the specific laws of all of these states. Obviously will owe nothing in Florida since there's no state income tax. I would at least consult a CPA if I were him.
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 12:35 am to
Mingo - do you know the Louisiana law? He will be adding New Orleans and Northshore in the fall.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:16 am to
If you are a resident Louisiana taxes all income no matter where it's earned, but will credit taxes paid to other states. I'm assuming your buddy isn't a resident, though. They'll tax the income he makes here, but at most but companies will give you a W-2 from each state that apples so if he needs to file a return here his company will give him a W-2 that says so.

I don't work in LA so I'm not 100% sure, but LSUHouston would probably be able to tell you with certainty.
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