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re: Dividend stocks and DRIPs as a long term investment vehicle
Posted on 6/26/13 at 12:31 pm to wegotdatwood
Posted on 6/26/13 at 12:31 pm to wegotdatwood
Wegotdatwood, Im by no means a financial advisor, but I like your plan, it's for the man who wants to take charge and do it on his own. I personally stay on top of my investments bc you never know when things are going to change within a company, so if you're willing to be on top of your investment your choices are very good. I personally feel all the companies you listed are in good financial shape and have a great history of paying increasing dividends and that's why I've mentioned them.
As for your current list I feel
PM is a great buy all the way up to $92 bc that would leave the forward september yield at 4%.
I feel Chevron is a great buy under $120 with a 3.4% yield.
I feel Mcdonalds is a decent buy with a yield over $3
I feel Visa is a good buy under $180
I feel KO is a good buy at $35 or less, right now its steep
Everyone keeps calling for a correction, the dow fell 1000 pts off its highs in the past week, could it go further? sure but thats why Im happy as a dividend growth investor, a drop in price means the ability to acquire more shares which will grow their dividend at a lower price, the ability to have my dividend purchase more shares as well, and the ability add a bigger percentage of companies towards my end goal which is a higher retirement income.
See dividend investing is about reverse engineering future dividend payments based on past historical increases which allows you to plan on future income in today's share. What I mean is, PM for instance is projected to pay $8.91/share in dividend in 2023, what that means is if I own 11,000 shares of PM by that time, I will collect $100,000/yr in dividend income.
So understanding the power of dividend growth along with the power of compounding new shares is just part of the fun with dividend growth stocks, the final result is what we're all after as investors. I personally see no change over the next decade in any of those companies, but that's why I say that you have to stay on top of things. I read barron's, seeking alpha and CNN Finance daily, I stay on top of my companies and I would suggest you do to if you choose to go the solo route.
In the long run if you can, you will be better off in terms of knowledge and in terms of money saved on fees from ETF's,mutual funds, and advisors.
Hope that helped
As for your current list I feel
PM is a great buy all the way up to $92 bc that would leave the forward september yield at 4%.
I feel Chevron is a great buy under $120 with a 3.4% yield.
I feel Mcdonalds is a decent buy with a yield over $3
I feel Visa is a good buy under $180
I feel KO is a good buy at $35 or less, right now its steep
Everyone keeps calling for a correction, the dow fell 1000 pts off its highs in the past week, could it go further? sure but thats why Im happy as a dividend growth investor, a drop in price means the ability to acquire more shares which will grow their dividend at a lower price, the ability to have my dividend purchase more shares as well, and the ability add a bigger percentage of companies towards my end goal which is a higher retirement income.
See dividend investing is about reverse engineering future dividend payments based on past historical increases which allows you to plan on future income in today's share. What I mean is, PM for instance is projected to pay $8.91/share in dividend in 2023, what that means is if I own 11,000 shares of PM by that time, I will collect $100,000/yr in dividend income.
So understanding the power of dividend growth along with the power of compounding new shares is just part of the fun with dividend growth stocks, the final result is what we're all after as investors. I personally see no change over the next decade in any of those companies, but that's why I say that you have to stay on top of things. I read barron's, seeking alpha and CNN Finance daily, I stay on top of my companies and I would suggest you do to if you choose to go the solo route.
In the long run if you can, you will be better off in terms of knowledge and in terms of money saved on fees from ETF's,mutual funds, and advisors.
Hope that helped
This post was edited on 6/26/13 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 6/26/13 at 12:36 pm to ThaBigFella
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What I mean is, PM for instance is projected to pay $8.91/share in dividend in 2023, what that means is if I own 11,000 shares of PM by that time, I will collect $100,000/yr in dividend income.
Which is less than $1 million today. Imagine buying that today? I'm buying 4% income ($40k return, over the next 12 months in dividend payments is nothing to sneeze at) and even just taking the dividend, not reinvesting it - that million will be producing $100k in 10 years, and along the way pay you back $500k to $600k of your original investment and be worth ~$2 million.
(IF our projections are correct - )
Hell of a buy.
(Of course, I only bought 0.5% of 11,000 shares on Friday, but one has to start somewhere, right?)
This post was edited on 6/26/13 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 6/26/13 at 12:39 pm to Ace Midnight
exactly and that income will always be inflation projected bc whatever you take in today will be boosted in excess of inflation if you choose the right companies. Will $100,000 in 2023 be as much as it is today? probably not, but it will still be a lot of money I promise you that.
haha what jim beam?
Ace Midnight, dont worry you are still young enough ( younger than 50) to where you have a while in the accumulation stage, we're living longer and longer, I'd imagine you have a good 40+ years left to live even if you're in your 40s. You have caught on to a very powerful tool.
haha what jim beam?
Ace Midnight, dont worry you are still young enough ( younger than 50) to where you have a while in the accumulation stage, we're living longer and longer, I'd imagine you have a good 40+ years left to live even if you're in your 40s. You have caught on to a very powerful tool.
This post was edited on 6/26/13 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 6/26/13 at 2:42 pm to ThaBigFella
I need to start making some cash so I can start investing heavily is what
Posted on 6/26/13 at 7:47 pm to ThaBigFella
Big Fella, thoughts in NKE, DIS, and HD? Dividends are growing and they will be around forever. (Shoes, entertainment, shelter)
Posted on 6/26/13 at 8:20 pm to jimbeam
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I need to start making some cash so I can start investing heavily is what
Same here, God, my 10k seems so small.
Posted on 6/26/13 at 8:24 pm to ThaBigFella
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ThaBigFella
I agree with your strategy on dividends but you are assuming that companies won't cut their dividend in the future.
Posted on 6/26/13 at 8:26 pm to RidiculousHype
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HD
HD and Lowe's are very seasonal. Also, in, NWA, Lowe's dominates and I'm sure in other areas as well.
Posted on 6/26/13 at 8:34 pm to Azazello
I think he is assuming that if a company has a multi year record of consistently improving their dividend and that is a priority for a company, they will continue to do so
Posted on 6/26/13 at 8:40 pm to GenesChin
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I think he is assuming that if a company has a multi year record of consistently improving their dividend and that is a priority for a company, they will continue to do so
This, and his major holdings have a mass market, extremely cheap product so they just mark up a little more each year= bigger div.
Posted on 6/26/13 at 9:29 pm to wegotdatwood
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NKE, DIS, and HD
I don't see why not, I know nothing about the stocks of Nike and Home Depot, I love Disney, have had my eye on it forever and can't ever grab it at a yield i like.
I really have no idea what the balance sheets look like for these companies, what their debt loads are, and what their dividend payout ratios are.
Assuming their payout ratios are below 50%, the debt isn't too high, and the dividend growth rate has been good the last 5+ years, and the P/E isn't above it's historical rate, then I'd say do it man.
I don't know your age, but for me and my goals, disney had a very low dividend so I never kept up with it. I love how they get children at their most vulnerable ages.
Posted on 6/26/13 at 11:16 pm to fratmonster
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fund retirement we need people to smoke, drink a lot of Cokes, eat McDonalds, and charge for things they can't pay for
and gamble
And porn. The world LOVES porn.
Posted on 6/28/13 at 7:31 pm to SmackoverHawg
Bump cause I purchased some PM, KO and MO today.
Buying some V, CVX, and some MCD Monday.
Dripping all...
Buying some V, CVX, and some MCD Monday.
Dripping all...
This post was edited on 6/28/13 at 9:40 pm
Posted on 6/28/13 at 10:18 pm to nelatf
smart man....all are pretty good buy at these price, ESP PM @$86 and CVX under $120
V and KO are slightly over valued, Id say $177 and lower on V and $36 or lower on KO but over 20-30 years, its not gonna matter what price you grab them at.
V and KO are slightly over valued, Id say $177 and lower on V and $36 or lower on KO but over 20-30 years, its not gonna matter what price you grab them at.
Posted on 6/30/13 at 3:51 pm to ThaBigFella
Yea cvx is one I'm relly looking at
Posted on 6/30/13 at 4:17 pm to jimbeam
CVX is nice but I can promise you over the next decade it wont have anywhere near the growth of PM or V, just my .02
it is probably the best priced one though as of today...
good luck jim beam.
it is probably the best priced one though as of today...
good luck jim beam.
Posted on 6/30/13 at 5:39 pm to nelatf
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Dripping all...
I don't think you can drip V.
Posted on 6/30/13 at 5:44 pm to ThaBigFella
Just a quick look at V on google finance. It says Visa's net profit margin was 43% quarter 1 2013.
Is that saying they net 40% of all the money they make? That sounds awesome, right?
I have 84 shares of pm @ 91.90.
I have an additional $2800 to invest. In your opinion, throw that to lower cost on PM at 86 or 87 or buy a slightly over priced V?
Is that saying they net 40% of all the money they make? That sounds awesome, right?
I have 84 shares of pm @ 91.90.
I have an additional $2800 to invest. In your opinion, throw that to lower cost on PM at 86 or 87 or buy a slightly over priced V?
This post was edited on 6/30/13 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 6/30/13 at 5:56 pm to wegotdatwood
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I don't think you can drip V.
Well shite....u r correct:
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15. Does Visa Inc. offer a dividend reinvestment plan (DRIP)? Visa Inc. does not currently offer this service.
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