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re: Considering leaving my job and going back to school
Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:15 pm to Epic Cajun
Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:15 pm to Epic Cajun
quote:Less than 1 year experience is not "old school mentality". You're just about as valuable as most college grads IMO. You barely got your whistle wet and are looking for a new job. I'm not paying you any more than a college grad unless you're bringing something pretty good to the table. That's a me mentality.
This is an old school mentality, imo
quote:No fault and no blame for looking. I'm just speaking as a potential employer and why he likely didn't get much attention when looking.
Who can fault someone for taking a better opportunity when it is presented?
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:48 pm to LSUAfro
How long would you suggest someone stay at their first job out?
Sorry for the hijack
Sorry for the hijack
Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:59 pm to Epic Cajun
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How long would you suggest someone stay at their first job out?
Until you can get a better one
. Industry/demand is an obvious factor.
Some may get out of school and work 9 months on a project/software/site that makes you a perfect fit for a new job.
You can't brush everything with a broad stroke, but generally speaking <1 yr experience out of college doesn't offer a whole hell of a lot to most employers that you didn't have 9-10 months ago.
Posted on 5/26/15 at 7:28 pm to LSUAfro
I think two years is a general broadstroke.
Posted on 5/26/15 at 7:54 pm to lynxcat
I agree and so would 3. I didn't say either but I think many would agree that less than 1 year out of school doesn't offer much to most resumes and obviously the market agrees with his struggle to find new employment.
This post was edited on 5/26/15 at 8:00 pm
Posted on 5/26/15 at 9:57 pm to LSUAfro
I agree that a year isn't much time to prove much of anything right out of undergrad.
You are barely familiar with the terminology of an industry only a year in.
You are barely familiar with the terminology of an industry only a year in.
Posted on 5/26/15 at 10:03 pm to kingbob
Why quit your job?
Why not take night classes? Law school offers the same.
Why not take night classes? Law school offers the same.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 7:47 am to lynxcat
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I agree that a year isn't much time to prove much of anything right out of undergrad.
I agree, but if you can land a better job that wasn't open when you first got out of school you have to take it. I received a 25 percent increase in salary by making that move
Posted on 5/27/15 at 8:09 am to Teddy Ruxpin
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Every occupation in life is a hussle. My inclination would be to hussle your way to more money/another company when the opportunity arises.
Truer words have never been spoken. School/Life is not about the grades you make but rather the hands you shake. Hustle, network, and be available when a good opportunity comes up. The best jobs and best opportunities aren't the ones you're going to find on LinkedIn.
ETA: You should really figure out your priorities (money, prestige, work/life balance, etc) before spending money on more education. Find what you're passionate about and what you care about, and figure out a way to make money donig it...not vice versa.
This post was edited on 5/27/15 at 8:11 am
Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:13 am to GregYoureMyBoyBlue
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The best jobs and best opportunities aren't the ones you're going to find on LinkedIn.
This is incorrect though...LinkedIn has terrific opportunities and is one of the cleanest interfaces for job searching.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 1:22 pm to lynxcat
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This is incorrect though...LinkedIn has terrific opportunities and is one of the cleanest interfaces for job searching.
This wasn't meant to be a knock on LinkedIn. I went through the job/recruitment process for a couple years, and, in my opinion, the best opportunities i found were the ones that I earned networking and getting introductions. If you're looking for a new job, you obviously want to do both. You'll find great opportunities on LinkedIn, but if you're looking for great opportunities combined with a higher likelihood of success, I'd wear out all networking opps available.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 2:56 pm to LSUAfro
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Your resume won't get looked at for anything other than a college grad that is already looking to job hop. You have to stick that first one out.
I didn't apply, the company came to me. I was afraid to apply to anything for the reasons stated. I have been looking around for opportunities to transfer within the company though to a similar position with different supervision.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 2:58 pm to pwejr88
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Why not take night classes?
I wanted to do that, but my work schedule is too erratic to make it work. I may have stretches working 50 hours a week, but then with only a day's notice, I can be working 7 days a week or even nights. I don't have the consistency to be able to do both, which would be the ideal situation.
This post was edited on 6/8/15 at 7:14 pm
Posted on 5/27/15 at 3:03 pm to GregYoureMyBoyBlue
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(money, prestige, work/life balance, etc) before spending money on more education. Find what you're passionate about and what you care about, and figure out a way to make money donig it
Honestly, for me, it's all about work/life balance. At times with my job, I have it, but at a moment's notice, it's flipped on its head. For 5/6 months (including football season), I worked every saturday. I worked between 60 and 70 hours/week. That's not an easy balance on anyone, but other times of the year, I've only worked 40 or 50 hours, and it's been great.
As for finding my passion and turning it into a career, I have yet to figure out a way to make a good living at what I am passionate about because what I love is not what is employable.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 3:07 pm to LSUAfro
The whole point with going to school is that if I am ever going to do so, it would be now, when I have limited expenses, no debt, no kids, ect. It's pretty much now or never. If it's something I want to do, doing so now would minimize the potential negative impacts to my career, negative financial consequences, and maximize potential positives moving forward.
Sorry about all of the posts, I just saw that people kept bumping this thread and thought I'd respond to all of the questions and posts.
This post was edited on 6/8/15 at 7:15 pm
Posted on 5/27/15 at 4:07 pm to kingbob
I don't get the whole "now or never" attitude about school. Schools aren't going anywhere. Many, many working adults manage to complete advanced/additional degrees despite families and other responsibilities. Those things don't distract from your ability to learn...they can enhance your ability to understand complex issues thanks to greater life experiences.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 5:06 pm to hungryone
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I don't get the whole "now or never" attitude about school. Schools aren't going anywhere.
The difference is that while someone without kids has the flexibility to leave his job and go to school for 3 years. Someone with kids won't have that kind of leverage because he will need a job to support dependents. Night school will always be an option in theory, but the reality of doing that while still holding down a demanding full time job AND taking care of multiple children is a daunting task to say the least. It would also mean giving up the ability to be there for children 4 nights out of the week as well as giving up any hobbies during those hours and losing time on the weekends due to studying. Not to say it is impossible, people do it every day, just MUCH more difficult.
If I don't go before I have these other commitments keeping me working, I will always technically have the ability to go back to school, but for the sake of practicality and my dependents, I likely never will.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 6:45 am to kingbob
If you are most interested in work/life balance, you may be terribly unhappy as an attorney. Sure, the self employed set their own hours, but you will work as hard as any other self employed person, hustling all the time. And you're at the mercy of the courts schedule to a certain extent. If you chase a big salary via a firm, you can absolutely FORGET life balance as an associate. Most will expect you to bill a set number of hours each week, period.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 7:52 am to kingbob
I know a decent amount about your situation as you've posted about your job/law school a few times on here--I would definitely sit down and re-think everything. It sounds like you're just trying to find a way out of your shitty job.
And an FYI...I've had classes with part time students. Most have families and full time jobs and were able to get everything done (most did quite well from what I could tell). Why not give part time a shot for a year. If you love law school, you can always switch to full time. If you hate it, you didn't end up wasting three years and pissing away your job.
And an FYI...I've had classes with part time students. Most have families and full time jobs and were able to get everything done (most did quite well from what I could tell). Why not give part time a shot for a year. If you love law school, you can always switch to full time. If you hate it, you didn't end up wasting three years and pissing away your job.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 7:56 am to TheOcean
I feel like I would be putting myself in a better position to be successful with day school as opposed to night.
This post was edited on 6/8/15 at 7:17 pm
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