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Company being bought out, forced to roll 401k to new companies plan
Posted on 3/21/11 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 3/21/11 at 4:00 pm
The company I work for is being bought out. We have just been told that we won't be able to roll our 401k over to an IRA, but will have to roll it into the new companies 401k plan.
Is this correct/legal. The new company's plan is horrible to say the least.
ETA: They company doing the buying bought 100% of our companies stock. However, we are not remaining employees of the old company, and are completing paper work to become employees of the new company.
Is this correct/legal. The new company's plan is horrible to say the least.
ETA: They company doing the buying bought 100% of our companies stock. However, we are not remaining employees of the old company, and are completing paper work to become employees of the new company.
This post was edited on 3/21/11 at 4:10 pm
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Posted on 3/21/11 at 4:22 pm to LSU0358
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The company I work for is being bought out. We have just been told that we won't be able to roll our 401k over to an IRA, but will have to roll it into the new companies 401k plan.
I don't think they can do that. You can do whatever you want after the blackout period.
Posted on 3/21/11 at 4:58 pm to Broke
I don't think they can do that either. I think our accountant (aka the bosses wife) doesn't know what the hell she's talking about.
Posted on 3/21/11 at 4:59 pm to LSU0358
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We have just been told that we won't be able to roll our 401k over to an IRA, but will have to roll it into the new companies 401k plan.
Sounds like bullshite to me
Posted on 3/21/11 at 5:29 pm to LSU0358
I think you would be able to do a rollover. Did the company contribute (A %) any to this account?
Posted on 3/21/11 at 5:47 pm to LSU0358
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Sounds like bullshite to me
It is. Don't let them tell you what to do with your money. You've always got the option to move your IRA. Of course, you're not going to get those matching funds $$$$'s, but it's YOUR money. You can put it wherever you want.
Posted on 3/21/11 at 6:17 pm to adavis
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Of course, you're not going to get those matching funds $$$$'s,
Unless vested.
Posted on 3/21/11 at 7:59 pm to LSUDad
been involved in 2 buyouts. Both rolled the 401k into the new companies plan. No questions asked.No option.
Posted on 3/21/11 at 9:18 pm to agdoctor
What type of job?
Posted on 3/22/11 at 10:19 am to agdoctor
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Both rolled the 401k into the new companies plan. No questions asked.No option.
That looks like is what is going to happen. The new company's 401k options suck horribly. I've been able to make killing in precious metal funds and now my choices are limited to small cap, mid cap, large cap, and Fidelity Freedom funds. I want to vomit.
Posted on 3/22/11 at 11:00 am to LSU0358
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Both rolled the 401k into the new companies plan. No questions asked.No option.
That looks like is what is going to happen.
So you can't get the money till you retire, quit or die?
Posted on 3/22/11 at 12:25 pm to LSUDad
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So you can't get the money till you retire, quit or die?
Thats correct. If I leave I can roll it over into an IRA or just leave it. Most plans have limited options. I use the ones at work then fill in the gaps until I hit the caps with Roth IRA's. Lastly I use tax managed funds in taxable accounts.I use Vanguards website to have everything in one place to monitor it.Works well for me.
Posted on 3/22/11 at 1:26 pm to agdoctor
It is a plan merger. You will not have the option to roll into an IRA. There is no qualifying event that lets you do a rollover as you will transfer over your vesting and should be credited with years of service at your past employer.
You may want to check the specifics of the new plan. Some plans allow for in-service distributions (or rollovers) on elective deferrals and rollover contribution at any age. If you have any pull at the new company you request that the plan be amended to allow this to happen. The fee for amendment varies depending on the provider and TPA. Between $65 and $650 (if a crappy company).
You may want to check the specifics of the new plan. Some plans allow for in-service distributions (or rollovers) on elective deferrals and rollover contribution at any age. If you have any pull at the new company you request that the plan be amended to allow this to happen. The fee for amendment varies depending on the provider and TPA. Between $65 and $650 (if a crappy company).
Posted on 3/22/11 at 1:41 pm to Maderan
correct. no choice in the matter unless you quit or the company allows in service withdrawals (usually for larger companies but still uncommon.)
If you leave, then get it out of a plan and roll it over to an IRA. 401K investment options particularly from Fidelity are poor at best with very limited options and many on index funds which are not the greatest.
If you leave, then get it out of a plan and roll it over to an IRA. 401K investment options particularly from Fidelity are poor at best with very limited options and many on index funds which are not the greatest.
Posted on 3/23/11 at 4:11 pm to The ATL
Just an FYI for anyone who cares...
I might be able to roll into an IRA afterall. Our buyout was a little odd. The company doing the buyout bought all of the company stock, so the old company still exists. However, we are being made to fill out paperwork to become employees of the new company. So technically each employee is changing companies for a job. The company that bought us out has there legal group looking deeper into it, but that was there initial answer.
I might be able to roll into an IRA afterall. Our buyout was a little odd. The company doing the buyout bought all of the company stock, so the old company still exists. However, we are being made to fill out paperwork to become employees of the new company. So technically each employee is changing companies for a job. The company that bought us out has there legal group looking deeper into it, but that was there initial answer.
Posted on 3/24/11 at 1:09 am to LSU0358
Microsoft acquired a company I worked for in the same exact manner in which your company is being bought.
Our 401 was rolled over into the MSFT plan. No choice in the matter.
Our 401 was rolled over into the MSFT plan. No choice in the matter.
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