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Posted on 8/29/11 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 8/29/11 at 1:51 pm
I just finished Rich Dad Poor Dad over the weekend and about to start The Richest Man in Babylon.
Thanks for the suggestions b/c the book information if worth far more then the price of the book in general.
Thanks for the suggestions b/c the book information if worth far more then the price of the book in general.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 3:46 pm to TheHiddenFlask
Roberty Koyasaki made his money in a world that no longer exists. I've been dragged to one of his seminars by a friend who is an OT Baller but doesn't want to work to do it anymore.
Free seminar where you're offered $300 in materials w/"discounts" available to knock it down to $250, and for those "serious" about becoming rich, they want you to fork over $3K to attend a "weekend event", where they offer you to come to an even more expensive event elsewhere.
It's all a ripoff. He went on CNBC and completely flopped on how to make money on a small scale. It's all about finding distressed properties and flipping them, using your own credit to float your own real-estate investment business.
Complete schister.
Dave Ramsey: Total Money Makeover
/End Thread
Free seminar where you're offered $300 in materials w/"discounts" available to knock it down to $250, and for those "serious" about becoming rich, they want you to fork over $3K to attend a "weekend event", where they offer you to come to an even more expensive event elsewhere.
It's all a ripoff. He went on CNBC and completely flopped on how to make money on a small scale. It's all about finding distressed properties and flipping them, using your own credit to float your own real-estate investment business.
Complete schister.
Dave Ramsey: Total Money Makeover
/End Thread
This post was edited on 8/29/11 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 8/29/11 at 3:59 pm to GFunk
I have not read rich dad poor dad, but Dave Ramsey has about as much clout as Mr T.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 4:08 pm to TheHiddenFlask
I think rich dad poor dad's message is good. it tells you to put your money into income producing assets, and to use that income to buy more income producing assets.
but dont take his investment advice. from what I remember he was heavy into flipping real estate, and buying ipo and junk bonds. pretty sure he makes most of his money these days from his books and seminars.
but dont take his investment advice. from what I remember he was heavy into flipping real estate, and buying ipo and junk bonds. pretty sure he makes most of his money these days from his books and seminars.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 4:47 pm to TheHiddenFlask
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I have not read rich dad poor dad, but Dave Ramsey has about as much clout as Mr T.
I spent 6 years not doing anything but running myself deeper and deeper into debt.
I read TMM by Dave Ramsey & I'm debt free except for a rinky dink credit card. Paid of two student loans, two automobiles, and three other credit cards, as well as every single negative and/or derogatory account on my credit.
We have a country & a society of spenders who have no idea of what it means to truly save, or actually operate with a budget. If you're recommending Algebra to people who want to learn the basics of math, well, then you're overshooting your audience.
What I needed as a guy in my late 20's was basic financial literacy after a youth spent earning more than I could spend, so budgeting was never a worry for me.
When I took a pay & lifestyle cut, I was ill-prepared. To say he doesn't have clout is to act like you think every American has an MBA.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 4:54 pm to GFunk
I completely agree with you.
However a guy who has a sociological plan to fix personal finance (which is very effective) doesn't mean anything to me personally. Anyone can figure out spend less, earn/save more, he's a motivator and good at what he does, but that doesn't make him someone I want to listen to about the merits of investing.
However a guy who has a sociological plan to fix personal finance (which is very effective) doesn't mean anything to me personally. Anyone can figure out spend less, earn/save more, he's a motivator and good at what he does, but that doesn't make him someone I want to listen to about the merits of investing.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 5:36 pm to TheHiddenFlask
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Anyone can figure out spend less, earn/save more, he's a motivator and good at what he does, but that doesn't make him someone I want to listen to about the merits of investing.
As evidenced by our budgetary decision-makers on the state & federal level, as well as ordinary Americans across our country, I'd say that you're wrong about that, and that Ramsey's message regarding simple budgeting and a general aversion to debt is sorely missing from all the rhetoric.
Again, you're overshooting the audience. The book should be required reading as a Freshman in HS. I can't tell you where I'd have been if I just applied a smattering of this sh!t when I was blowing through commission checks like they were water.
They don't teach financial literacy on any level in schools. I graduated HS without knowing how to balance a checkbook, but fill out this one little form for a VISA at LSU & you get this cool T-Shirt!
Again, books about fundamental finance for everyday consumers & people are far more usefl and have tons of clout.
As far as investing? Maybe you're right...
Posted on 8/29/11 at 5:48 pm to GFunk
Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion
Thank me later.
Thank me later.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 5:49 pm to GFunk
LOL. As if financial literacy would change anything in Washington. OP needs to specify what he's looking for: personal finance books or investment books.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 6:36 pm to TigerMan02
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Rich Dad Poor Dad
I wasn't too impressed with this book. It presents you with the right mindset, but offers little in the way of details.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 6:44 pm to GFunk
As far as Dave Ramsey goes, his "wisdom" is just plain common sense for most of us here. However, as it is apparent from the callers on his show, common sense eludes a great number of people, especially when dealing with financial matters.
I disagree with him on a few items. He advocates not using a credit card under any circumstances and dismisses the perceived importance of a good credit score.
A credit card can a valuable financial tool for someone who is responsible with it. I've received about $1000 in credit cards rewards over the past two years by simply making a lot of purchases on credit and paying them off each month. IMO, it is one of the closest things to free money. I feel like he thinks the majority of his followers are too weak to own a credit card and not run up excessive amounts of debt.
Also, I'm not sure about completely dismissing the idea of maintaining a healthy credit score. When I purchased my home, I got a very good interest rate. The lender told me that it was my excellent credit score that played heavily into me getting the best rate available. Saving a half of a percentage point on a home loan due to an excellent credit score (as compared to the poor one you obtain following Dave Ramsey's advice) can lead to a significant amount of savings over time.
I disagree with him on a few items. He advocates not using a credit card under any circumstances and dismisses the perceived importance of a good credit score.
A credit card can a valuable financial tool for someone who is responsible with it. I've received about $1000 in credit cards rewards over the past two years by simply making a lot of purchases on credit and paying them off each month. IMO, it is one of the closest things to free money. I feel like he thinks the majority of his followers are too weak to own a credit card and not run up excessive amounts of debt.
Also, I'm not sure about completely dismissing the idea of maintaining a healthy credit score. When I purchased my home, I got a very good interest rate. The lender told me that it was my excellent credit score that played heavily into me getting the best rate available. Saving a half of a percentage point on a home loan due to an excellent credit score (as compared to the poor one you obtain following Dave Ramsey's advice) can lead to a significant amount of savings over time.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 6:56 pm to GFunk
As far as i'm concerned, Dave Ramsey can teach people how to budget and has a good system for people who are ten's of thousands of dollars in debt. He glorifies basic addition and subtraction by making people use envelopes and budget worksheets.
I will always be cautious of someone giving advise to people: 1) without any type of credential or strong educational background in Finance, and 2) who has been bankrupt.
There is a reason why at the end of his show the disclaimers come out...
I will always be cautious of someone giving advise to people: 1) without any type of credential or strong educational background in Finance, and 2) who has been bankrupt.
There is a reason why at the end of his show the disclaimers come out...
This post was edited on 8/29/11 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 8/29/11 at 9:31 pm to GimmieSomeGlitter
I've stalled out about a quarter of the way through The Truth About Money by Ric Edelman. It's greatly increased my knowledge of personal investment vehicles, which isn't saying much I suppose. I should get back to it once I finish A Confederacy of Dunces.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 9:32 pm to GimmieSomeGlitter
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He glorifies basic addition and subtraction by making people use envelopes and budget worksheets.
Maybe so. But a large percentage of the population in the US is not even up to par on the basic addition and subtraction. In order to invest, one has to have there personal finances in order. Follow Ramsey's plan(s) and that will happen. Now, I don't agree with his "Put money in mutual funds and check it once a year" theory on investing.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 9:41 pm to GFunk
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but fill out this one little form for a VISA at LSU & you get this cool T-Shirt!
I've received several cool T-shirts over the years.
I don't have the credit cards anymore and other than my home mortgage and business loan, it IS nice to not have revolving credit debt.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 6:21 am to Dead Mike
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I should get back to it once I finish A Confederacy of Dunces.
Love that book.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 12:27 pm to GFunk
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Complete schister
Shyster, brah, shyster, otherwise people may be clueless as to what you mean....and I agree on Kyosaki, guy is worthless.
Economics/finance/personal finance is like everything else, most Americans are too lazy to lift a finger to try and improve. Kudos on what you have accomplished clearing debt/credit blemishes.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 12:29 pm to urinetrouble
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I've received about $1000 in credit cards rewards over the past two years by simply making a lot of purchases on credit and paying them off each month. IMO, it is one of the closest things to free money.
Received a check for $1,030 from Chase yesterday, got almost $1k from Amex & Costco earlier. West coast vacay is looking cheaper by the day.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 12:31 pm to TigerMan02
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Expected Returns: An Investor's Guide to Harvesting Market Rewards (The Wiley Finance Series)
The above is a great book for future reading.
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