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bonuses and taxes

Posted on 3/13/15 at 8:27 am
Posted by finfeathersport
Member since Jan 2013
234 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 8:27 am
are bonuses taxed differently that regular wages. Its just supplemental wages.

Posted by eelsuee
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Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 3/13/15 at 8:29 am to
At the end of the year it is taxed like any other income. When you are paid your bonus it is typical to withhold tax at your highest tax bracket since it is in addition to your normal income.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 8:43 am to
They are not taxed differently, but there are special provisions for determining amounts to withhold for taxes. Refer to Circular E if you want to see what those provisions are.
Posted by swanny297
NELA
Member since Oct 2013
2189 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 10:54 am to
My federal withholding on my bonus has always been much higher than my federal withholding for my monthly gross salary, how are they not taxed differently?
This post was edited on 3/13/15 at 10:56 am
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53126 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 10:59 am to
Some softwares assume that you'll always make that and may withhold from a higher tax bracket than you're actually in.

Also, funny story for this thread, my dads friend changed his status to married and 9 to take a bonus. Well, HR never changed it back. He owed like 15k at the end of the year.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11783 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 11:02 am to
quote:

My federal withholding on my bonus has always been much higher than my federal withholding for my monthly gross salary, how are they not taxed differently?



guess it all depends on your companies payroll software

But, each check is taxed like it is a recurring check forecast for the entire year to derive the tax rate.

so if you get paid weekly then your weekly check is taxed as if you will receive 52 checks at that rate to derive your weekly tax rate. so a large bonus check will be taxed at the highest rate.

This is the reason i have seen guys in the field get 1 or two hours of OT and actually bring home less then a 40 hr check because it bumps them up into a higher tax bracket.

But when filing your taxes at the end of the year, that bonus check gets averaged out with all your weekly checks since you are only looking at your net income at that point.

In December i call accounting and have them take a fixed % out of my checks for state and federal instead of using number of deductions. That way my bonus check is not hit so hard....
Posted by CurDog
Member since Jan 2007
28082 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 11:30 am to
married and 10
Posted by TIGERSby10
Central Lafourche
Member since Nov 2005
6905 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 11:44 am to
It will all work out to the same thing when you file your taxes. If your Bonus gets hit hard when you receive it, you will benefit when you file your taxes.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 11:46 am to
quote:

In December i call accounting and have them take a fixed % out of my checks for state and federal instead of using number of deductions. That way my bonus check is not hit so hard....


did that work?

40% of my income is in bonuses and b.c of that I always get huge refunds. This year I am looking at close to 7k in refund and that is with a large chunk of investment income that wasn't taxed.

I would prefer to not give the gov't a free loan.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 11:50 am to
quote:

My federal withholding on my bonus has always been much higher than my federal withholding for my monthly gross salary, how are they not taxed differently?



Because you aren't getting taxed every paycheck. You get taxed on April 15. The withholdings are usually just based on a projection of what your gross income (and ultimately what taxes you're going to owe) is going to be, based on things like the amount of the check and assuming that forward until the end of the year. Because of how the withholding is calculated, what happens is that large one-off checks often end up skewing high and getting a higher withholding percentage than usual payroll checks.

However, the actual tax you owe isn't known until you calculate and file your tax return. Once you have calculated the tax you owe the government, all of the withholdings that you made over the year are subtracted from the tax due. If the withholdings were too high and you had more money withheld and sent to the government than you actually owed, you get a refund check. Without interest, of course.

That's the general idea.
This post was edited on 3/13/15 at 11:57 am
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 11:55 am to
quote:

did that work?



My old job, I would get one EOY bonus and I knew the amount before hand...I'd adjust my withholding for that one check to help offset the extra withheld.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39545 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 11:58 am to
quote:


I would prefer to not give the gov't a free loan.


You're a different case if those bonuses are throughout the year. That sounds like a pain.

I don't see the point in adjusting witholding for a December bonus though. Any refund I get by mid February so it's not like I'd be without the money for an appreciable amount of time.
This post was edited on 3/13/15 at 11:59 am
Posted by LSUAfro
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
12775 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 12:19 pm to
quote:


did that work?

40% of my income is in bonuses and b.c of that I always get huge refunds. This year I am looking at close to 7k in refund and that is with a large chunk of investment income that wasn't taxed.


I imagine it would depend on the company and the payroll software they are using.
quote:

quote:

I would prefer to not give the gov't a free loan.


Change your withholding's.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
36944 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

My federal withholding on my bonus has always been much higher than my federal withholding for my monthly gross salary, how are they not taxed differently?


Others have explained why this is.

Think of withholding as an estimate, and your tax return as the truing up at the end of the year. If your estimates were too high, you get money back, if they were too low, you owe money.
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10253 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 2:14 pm to
No
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

Change your withholding's.


I will look into this, but I am pretty sure I am currently withholding as if I was married filed jointly with nothing extra taken out.

I actually did the math, and its closer to 50% of my income is in bonuses/options.
Posted by BACONisMEATcandy
Member since Dec 2007
46643 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 4:36 pm to
quote:

My federal withholding on my bonus has always been much higher than my federal withholding for my monthly gross salary, how are they not taxed differently?


It's the witholding software - it basically thinks you now will have that as your month salary. You get it back on your returns.
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
9914 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 5:41 pm to
Yes, this is why when big bonuses are forthcoming I ALWAYS change my "Federal" tax rate to EXEMPT. I itemize and for the last month of the year claim zero it all works out.

I let the State have their pennies no reason to mess with that one.
Posted by PrettyLights
Member since Oct 2014
1163 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 6:48 pm to
You can change the the pay frequency from bi-weekly to monthly so that the accounting software withholds federal and state taxes on the bonus as if it were your monthly salary. It causes less taxes to be withheld.
This post was edited on 3/13/15 at 7:56 pm
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