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Best Concrete prices?
Posted on 4/7/14 at 9:56 am
Posted on 4/7/14 at 9:56 am
Looks like concrete prices just went back up to almost $100/yd. A month ago I was quoted $90/yd. Anybody know who has the best rate right now in the Livingston parish area?
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Posted on 4/7/14 at 3:11 pm to vettegc
Just poured my driveway and patio extension a couple weeks ago and paid 90.00 per square yard from Quality Concrete in Central.
Edit: I was told that the prices go up in April though, so it may be higher than that. Ascension Ready-Mix was 100/sq yrd a few weeks ago. By far the highest price I got quoted.
Edit: I was told that the prices go up in April though, so it may be higher than that. Ascension Ready-Mix was 100/sq yrd a few weeks ago. By far the highest price I got quoted.
This post was edited on 4/7/14 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 4/7/14 at 3:43 pm to joeytiger
Cubic yard
Posted on 4/7/14 at 8:08 pm to Croacka
How much concrete are you needing? Ready-Mixed Concrete companies hold their nose to schedule and deliver to jobs needing small loads (< 8 cubic yards). There's usually more trouble and issues to off-load, from alleged "quality issues" (usually the result of folks who try and make concrete do what it is not designed to do or capable of doing) and ultimately get enough payment for the small jobs are nuisance.
The small jobs are 5%-10% of a concrete company's volume and 2/3 rds of their headaches.
No matter what size your project needs, call around and tell each company specifically what you need:
1. How many cubic yards? Don't guess and round up 10%
2. What sized load(s) per mixer truck? (In cubic yards)
3. How will you be unloading the truck? (Pump, wheelbarrow, tailgate, GA buggy, ect.)
4. What kind of mix and what desired concrete strength? 3000 Or 4000 PSI, Do you need a pea gravel only mix?
5. Check out different possible days to deliver: they might be busy one day and slack another that will allow them to ship to you earlier.
6. Do you need fiber or retarder or water reducer? If you don't know what these are, you shouldn't be in charge of ordering.
7. How are you going to pay for it? Some take Credit Cards, others only cash or check in advance. Ask before, don't assume.
8. Make sure you confirm your order the afternoon before you are scheduled to get concrete.
9. Have a good job site contact number. Make sure the concrete company can get in touch with the person at the job site.
The small jobs are 5%-10% of a concrete company's volume and 2/3 rds of their headaches.
No matter what size your project needs, call around and tell each company specifically what you need:
1. How many cubic yards? Don't guess and round up 10%
2. What sized load(s) per mixer truck? (In cubic yards)
3. How will you be unloading the truck? (Pump, wheelbarrow, tailgate, GA buggy, ect.)
4. What kind of mix and what desired concrete strength? 3000 Or 4000 PSI, Do you need a pea gravel only mix?
5. Check out different possible days to deliver: they might be busy one day and slack another that will allow them to ship to you earlier.
6. Do you need fiber or retarder or water reducer? If you don't know what these are, you shouldn't be in charge of ordering.
7. How are you going to pay for it? Some take Credit Cards, others only cash or check in advance. Ask before, don't assume.
8. Make sure you confirm your order the afternoon before you are scheduled to get concrete.
9. Have a good job site contact number. Make sure the concrete company can get in touch with the person at the job site.
This post was edited on 4/7/14 at 8:09 pm
Posted on 4/8/14 at 7:40 am to soccerfüt
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soccerfüt
Wise words!
Posted on 4/8/14 at 12:22 pm to Tbooux
160 yds residential 3000 psi concrete. Probably will need a pump truck. No special additives. Can pay cash or check.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 3:17 pm to vettegc
I got a quote of around $2,500 for 32 sq yds recently and I thought that was real high. This thread leads me to believe that was/is a good deal. Am I missing something?
Posted on 4/8/14 at 7:12 pm to TigeRoots
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I got a quote of around $2,500 for 32 sq yds recently and I thought that was real high.
From who? Concrete is going to be roughly $90-$95 dollars in south Louisiana.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 7:25 pm to vettegc
I paid $94/CY for 3000 PSI about 3 months ago. I'd expect something in that range. How many locations do you plan on pouring?
Posted on 4/9/14 at 12:20 am to HardHat
Common Error in Calculating Concrete Amounts in Estimates
Don't confuse CUBIC yards with SQUARE yards.
One measures Volume and the other measures Area.
Concrete is sold from Ready-Mixed Concrete producers by the Cubic Yard. A Cubic Yard of concrete will exactly fill a perfectly square cube (or box) with dimensions of three feet on all sides (height, length & width).
A Square Yard of Concrete is used to describe the surface area paved in concrete. A square yard can be thought of as a square on the surface of your patio measuring exactly 3 feet by 3 feet. But how deep is the concrete? If it is the industry standard of 4" deep for patios and sidewalks, then the 4" deep SQUARE yard only required 1/9th of a CUBIC yard of concrete to make. So with 4" thick concrete, One CUBIC yard will yield Nine SQUARE Yards of surface area. If you took the Nine 3' x 3' squares (nine Square Yards) and put them in a single row, they would be 27' long x 3' wide, which is 81 square FEET. (27x3=81)
So One CUBIC yard of concrete (costs around $100.00) at 4" deep will give you 81 square feet of patio or driveway or sidewalk. That's around $1.20/ sq ft in concrete.
Confused? You aren't alone. Figure out how many square FEET you want. That's the key.
Concrete prices went up about 6-10% on April 1st due to a Nationwide Cement price increase. So expect to pay around $100.00 per cubic yard on larger sized orders. A one cubic yard order will cost around $250.00 with tax and short load charge.
Don't confuse CUBIC yards with SQUARE yards.
One measures Volume and the other measures Area.
Concrete is sold from Ready-Mixed Concrete producers by the Cubic Yard. A Cubic Yard of concrete will exactly fill a perfectly square cube (or box) with dimensions of three feet on all sides (height, length & width).
A Square Yard of Concrete is used to describe the surface area paved in concrete. A square yard can be thought of as a square on the surface of your patio measuring exactly 3 feet by 3 feet. But how deep is the concrete? If it is the industry standard of 4" deep for patios and sidewalks, then the 4" deep SQUARE yard only required 1/9th of a CUBIC yard of concrete to make. So with 4" thick concrete, One CUBIC yard will yield Nine SQUARE Yards of surface area. If you took the Nine 3' x 3' squares (nine Square Yards) and put them in a single row, they would be 27' long x 3' wide, which is 81 square FEET. (27x3=81)
So One CUBIC yard of concrete (costs around $100.00) at 4" deep will give you 81 square feet of patio or driveway or sidewalk. That's around $1.20/ sq ft in concrete.
Confused? You aren't alone. Figure out how many square FEET you want. That's the key.
Concrete prices went up about 6-10% on April 1st due to a Nationwide Cement price increase. So expect to pay around $100.00 per cubic yard on larger sized orders. A one cubic yard order will cost around $250.00 with tax and short load charge.
This post was edited on 4/9/14 at 12:25 am
Posted on 4/9/14 at 6:33 am to TheDirty1
I'm not sure of the concrete guys name/company. I am running everything through my landscaper, as this is for a courtyard that he's designing for me.
After he quoted me the concrete price I asked him to pump the brakes and I would research the concrete on my own.
After he quoted me the concrete price I asked him to pump the brakes and I would research the concrete on my own.
This post was edited on 4/9/14 at 6:39 am
Posted on 4/9/14 at 6:38 am to soccerfüt
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confused
Yes.
Now I am back to my original thought that $2,500 is way too high for 288 square feet. It doesn't have to be very load bearing as it isn't a driveway or anything. 3-4" would be fine.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 4:58 pm to TigeRoots
If you want to have 288 square feet of 4" thickness sidewalk or patio, you will need 3.55 cubic yards of concrete to do so. The 'street value' of 3.55 cubic yards is around $550.00 in the BR Metroplex. So your contractor was trying to make $2,000 or so on the job or almost $7.00 per square foot. That's high but not exorbitant if he a)is insured and b)does it right. Stained and scored decorative concrete is around $10-$12/sq. foot for quality work.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 5:17 pm to soccerfüt
Additionally, this part is important and universal to purchasing something like concrete for use at your own house:
You (the homeowner) MUST make sure the concrete is paid for. What is the best way to do so? To order it and then pay for it yourself. Many concrete contractors don't want homeowners to purchase the concrete directly. (For one or more reasons: they (the finishers) like to control the purchase, use which company they like, they like to tell you the concrete was more expensive to make it appear that they are giving you a break on the labor or drive up the total price of the job, and they have been known to tell customers that the concrete was going to be thicker than it actually was. (3" thick concrete instead of the promised 4" thick driveway and they pocket the difference).
As if all of these negative reasons didn't scare a homeowner, here's the nightmare scenario which happens often: A homeowner PAYS the finisher for the ENTIRE project, (Labor & Materials) and the homeowner THINKS the concrete finisher paid for the concrete, but the finisher did not. The concrete supplier's company lawyer calls the homeowner and explains that the concrete was not paid for. Joe Homeowner cannot return the concrete to the concrete company because the concrete is now his patio. The homeowner is then legally obliged to pay A SECOND Time for the SAME concrete. The only legal remedy the homeowner has is to try to chase down the concrete finisher for misapplication of funds. Good luck
The concrete company's position is a slam-dunk in Louisiana consumer law. The homeowner is the one deriving the benefit from the in-place concrete. The concrete has added value to the real estate. It doesn't matter who ordered the concrete from the concrete company, a homeowner is judged to be allowing the finisher to act as his legal agent. It wasn't a surprise to the homeowner that the material showed up from somewhere.
The macro moral of the story is: ANY TIME a (sub) contractor requires material (wood, concrete, fill, anything) for a project at your house, as a homeowner you PAY for the material yourself. Lien releases can go bad. If you pay for it yourself, you know where you are at all times and a reputable and honest (sub)contractor has no fear of this dynamic. If one attempts to crawfish when you mention this, they are either ignorant or dishonest or both.
You (the homeowner) MUST make sure the concrete is paid for. What is the best way to do so? To order it and then pay for it yourself. Many concrete contractors don't want homeowners to purchase the concrete directly. (For one or more reasons: they (the finishers) like to control the purchase, use which company they like, they like to tell you the concrete was more expensive to make it appear that they are giving you a break on the labor or drive up the total price of the job, and they have been known to tell customers that the concrete was going to be thicker than it actually was. (3" thick concrete instead of the promised 4" thick driveway and they pocket the difference).
As if all of these negative reasons didn't scare a homeowner, here's the nightmare scenario which happens often: A homeowner PAYS the finisher for the ENTIRE project, (Labor & Materials) and the homeowner THINKS the concrete finisher paid for the concrete, but the finisher did not. The concrete supplier's company lawyer calls the homeowner and explains that the concrete was not paid for. Joe Homeowner cannot return the concrete to the concrete company because the concrete is now his patio. The homeowner is then legally obliged to pay A SECOND Time for the SAME concrete. The only legal remedy the homeowner has is to try to chase down the concrete finisher for misapplication of funds. Good luck
The concrete company's position is a slam-dunk in Louisiana consumer law. The homeowner is the one deriving the benefit from the in-place concrete. The concrete has added value to the real estate. It doesn't matter who ordered the concrete from the concrete company, a homeowner is judged to be allowing the finisher to act as his legal agent. It wasn't a surprise to the homeowner that the material showed up from somewhere.
The macro moral of the story is: ANY TIME a (sub) contractor requires material (wood, concrete, fill, anything) for a project at your house, as a homeowner you PAY for the material yourself. Lien releases can go bad. If you pay for it yourself, you know where you are at all times and a reputable and honest (sub)contractor has no fear of this dynamic. If one attempts to crawfish when you mention this, they are either ignorant or dishonest or both.
This post was edited on 4/9/14 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 4/9/14 at 6:42 pm to soccerfüt
Thanks for the information. This is perfect timing. My "contractor" my landscaper is a lifelong friend and the concrete guy comes highly recommended by him. I don't doubt that my buddy is obviously tacking some margin on for himself, but I don't mind. I really don't have time to coordinate it all. That's what I'm paying him for. For what it's worth, the $2,500 was to form all of the slabs, etc. It's 4 separate "pods" that I'm looking to have poured; that make up a courtyard. Would that possibly add to the price?
Posted on 4/9/14 at 7:26 pm to TigeRoots
Oh yeah, as to level of difficulty and form lumber necessary it's much more complex than a single 28' x 10' RV parking pad which would be the same amount of square yards.
That's not a bad price for architectural-grade work. Just make sure you know and the workers are clear on what you want and expect, do-overs are tough with concrete.
Make sure they anticipate for the concrete to crack where it physics forces it to crack.
Good luck on your project.
That's not a bad price for architectural-grade work. Just make sure you know and the workers are clear on what you want and expect, do-overs are tough with concrete.
Make sure they anticipate for the concrete to crack where it physics forces it to crack.
Good luck on your project.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 7:33 pm to soccerfüt
Noted. Thanks alot!
Posted on 4/10/14 at 1:59 pm to TigeRoots
I want to concrete 5000 sqft driveway. Anyone have any idea what is good price for turnkey job to have that done? What's avg price per sqft for driveway?
Posted on 4/10/14 at 3:58 pm to Hankg
It first depends on what is in the driveway at present. Do you need to cut the subgrade down or remove it totally and bring in good base material?
Next, what's the geometry involved; a 25' x 200' driveway is different than a 10' x 500' driveway.
What kind of traffic is going to be on it? Having an RV on it is different than than just light vehicles.
Are you going to use a concrete pump and set it all up and pour it all at one time?
To use 5" deep concrete and cover 5,000 sq. feet is about 80 cubic yards of concrete, $8,000.00 in concrete.
You'll have form material and inbeds (reinforcement and also joint materials in the concrete's joints). That will run $2-3k-ish.
A pump truck is $1,000.00.
To set the forms and pour it will be about $12,000-$15,000 in labor.
So, depending on what you have to do in prep, you are looking at around $30k-ish. That works out to $6.00 per square foot.
Next, what's the geometry involved; a 25' x 200' driveway is different than a 10' x 500' driveway.
What kind of traffic is going to be on it? Having an RV on it is different than than just light vehicles.
Are you going to use a concrete pump and set it all up and pour it all at one time?
To use 5" deep concrete and cover 5,000 sq. feet is about 80 cubic yards of concrete, $8,000.00 in concrete.
You'll have form material and inbeds (reinforcement and also joint materials in the concrete's joints). That will run $2-3k-ish.
A pump truck is $1,000.00.
To set the forms and pour it will be about $12,000-$15,000 in labor.
So, depending on what you have to do in prep, you are looking at around $30k-ish. That works out to $6.00 per square foot.
This post was edited on 4/10/14 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 4/10/14 at 4:24 pm to soccerfüt
It's 10x500. Currently asphalt that's cracking bad
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