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Bank for Refinance on Investment Property

Posted on 5/23/17 at 7:49 am
Posted by cmlsu
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2011
659 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 7:49 am
I am currently rehabbing a 3bd/2bth investment property. I bought with cash a few weeks ago and would like to refinance cash out after I reno and rent. Does anyone know or have experience with a bank I could use to refi that doesn't require the 6 month "seasoning period" of ownership with fannie and freddie? I understand that I may have to find a bank with portfolio options.
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5842 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 10:17 am to
your not going to find someone to waive the seasoning requirement that would make it an non qualified mortgage and that's a No No as i like to say.
Posted by cmlsu
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2011
659 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 10:29 am to
quote:

your not going to find someone to waive the seasoning requirement that would make it an non qualified mortgage and that's a No No as i like to say.


What about portfolio lenders? Banks that issue loans that aren't sold to Fannie and Freddie?
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5842 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 10:41 am to
i work for a bank and we do portfolio lending and we don't even allow investment properties on our portfolio. The bank might need to sale the loans one day to fannie or freddie so we still underright to there guidelines. there are exceptions made but that requires a lot of money on our books and a long relationship.
Posted by cmlsu
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2011
659 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 11:21 am to
quote:

i work for a bank and we do portfolio lending and we don't even allow investment properties on our portfolio. The bank might need to sale the loans one day to fannie or freddie so we still underright to there guidelines. there are exceptions made but that requires a lot of money on our books and a long relationship.


Thanks. I'm having some luck now getting numbers but I understand each bank is different.
Posted by Skeet Mc
Member since Dec 2006
2846 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 12:29 pm to
Is the property located in Baton Rouge? AIf not in BR, where? What would the appraised value be after renovations are completed? What percentage of the value are you looking to cash out--50%, 60%, 80%? What will you do with the cash, payoff other debt, invest in another property, take a vacation? Do you have adequate income to service the debt within a bank's typical DTI standards if the property goes unrented for 6-12 months?

Depending on the above circumstances, I may be able to suggest a bank that would consider the request.

A community bank may keep investment loans in-house but you would be looking at a 20 year amortization with a 3-5 year term.
Posted by cmlsu
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2011
659 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

Is the property located in Baton Rouge? AIf not in BR, where? What would the appraised value be after renovations are completed? What percentage of the value are you looking to cash out--50%, 60%, 80%? What will you do with the cash, payoff other debt, invest in another property, take a vacation? Do you have adequate income to service the debt within a bank's typical DTI standards if the property goes unrented for 6-12 months?

Depending on the above circumstances, I may be able to suggest a bank that would consider the request.

A community bank may keep investment loans in-house but you would be looking at a 20 year amortization with a 3-5 year term.


Property is in 70818. ARV should be about $140K, purchased for $57K. I would like to cash out 75% LTV in order to pay off my HELOC (which was used to purchase property with cash) and reno costs. I then would like to repeat everything and find another investment property.
Posted by edsmithiii
Member since Apr 2016
13 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 1:47 pm to
Home Bank. Reno property, get tenant to sign lease, get security deposit in check or cash, take to the bank and close the deal. Rate will be 1/1.5 points higher than LIBOR.

Currently have properties having done exactly the above and a number in the past.

You could also shop a broker. Nola Lending on Oak St in Nola, highly recommend.

Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5842 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 1:50 pm to
just a suggestion to help on interest rates on these deals. use your HELOC for the down payment when you purchase your next rental. You will get a .5% better interest rate as a purchase then you will as a cash out refinance. Also i would wait the 6 months and then cash this property out. You are going to get a much better deal than shopping around for a arm loan when you can get a fixed rate in 5 months. just my advice.
Posted by cmlsu
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2011
659 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 1:54 pm to
Thanks for all your help...good advice.
Posted by Skeet Mc
Member since Dec 2006
2846 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 2:19 pm to
If you are going to continue to acquire property, find a bank that will allow you to pay off your HELOC and cross pledge the existing equity to your next project. You build a relationship with a lender and bank that will make it easier for future financing requests.

Talk with the potential banker to determine their comfort level with your type of investments, what their LTV expectations are and based on your financial situation, what total dollar amount in outstanding loans would they be comfortable in having with you.
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5842 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 2:19 pm to
no problem hope it helps out.
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