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anyone selling any VIX Puts?
Posted on 8/25/15 at 8:49 am
Posted on 8/25/15 at 8:49 am
good trade for jan 16 options?
Posted on 8/25/15 at 8:52 am to b-rab2
I bought puts yesterday. If you're a put seller, I'd be deep out of the money.
Posted on 8/25/15 at 8:55 am to b-rab2
You're selling people the right to sell to you at a specified price. VIX moves up dramatically and infrequently, and moves down even more dramatically, but less often. Do you really want someone putting a VIX settlement to you at today's overly inflated price?
Posted on 8/25/15 at 9:00 am to Iowa Golfer
gotcha I get confused on the put side. We all know the VIX will eventually go back down to the $10-20 sometime before january 16 (atleast I think it will). What trade would that be? I need to sell a put correct? Looks like I put the wrong side in on my trade.. oops
Posted on 8/25/15 at 9:04 am to b-rab2
Buy a put. Buy the right to sell to someone else. Don't ever sell puts if you don't know what you're doing. Don't ever sell calls unless you're covered.
Do this for at least a year, and maybe consider selling puts if you want to own the security, and think it is a way to lower your cost basis. Strike price minus premium collected.
So if you sell a put, be fully prepared to have someone put those shares to you at the strike. I sell puts only if I have no issue owning the stock, and no issue owning it at the strike price.
Do this for at least a year, and maybe consider selling puts if you want to own the security, and think it is a way to lower your cost basis. Strike price minus premium collected.
So if you sell a put, be fully prepared to have someone put those shares to you at the strike. I sell puts only if I have no issue owning the stock, and no issue owning it at the strike price.
Posted on 8/25/15 at 9:09 am to Iowa Golfer
I used to sell puts on company's that I wanted to own at a certain price, but I haven't done that in a long time. I haven't played the options other than buying calls.
Posted on 8/25/15 at 9:14 am to b-rab2
Also, VIX are European style, which is probably a good thing, but they do settle in cash, and cash you will pay. They also settle at a settlement price, which is different than VIX spot. It is the expected value at expiration.
If you want to trade, I'd do two things. 1) Learn how t use VIX as insurance, and this really isn't a trade. 2) Trade it infrequently. As in maybe a couple of times a year, like the last couple of days when things are obvious. Then for the other 99% of time, leave it alone.
If you want to trade, I'd do two things. 1) Learn how t use VIX as insurance, and this really isn't a trade. 2) Trade it infrequently. As in maybe a couple of times a year, like the last couple of days when things are obvious. Then for the other 99% of time, leave it alone.
Posted on 8/25/15 at 9:19 am to Iowa Golfer
so buy the calls when VIX is way low ($11-13) a few months out. and when things happen like this past week, buy the puts? got it.
Posted on 8/25/15 at 9:23 am to b-rab2
Yes. But don't buy long term, there is insurance and time premium built in. A lot of it.
I buy the cheapest calls for movement as insurance and roll.
For trades, I bought calls Thurs, Fri, bought and sold yesterday. I bought puts yesterday before close, and I'm already out. And will probably stay out as a trade until next time opportunity comes a knocking. Before Thursday, I hadn't touched VIX except as insurance.
I buy the cheapest calls for movement as insurance and roll.
For trades, I bought calls Thurs, Fri, bought and sold yesterday. I bought puts yesterday before close, and I'm already out. And will probably stay out as a trade until next time opportunity comes a knocking. Before Thursday, I hadn't touched VIX except as insurance.
Posted on 8/25/15 at 10:13 am to b-rab2
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anyone selling any VIX Puts?
sell aapl puts
Posted on 8/25/15 at 10:24 am to Big Scrub TX
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sell aapl puts
This is not what he asked, and I'm sure he wont follow blindly by your suggestion
This post was edited on 8/25/15 at 10:24 am
Posted on 8/25/15 at 1:03 pm to b-rab2
It's a much less scary trade. But don't just sell the puts, sell the straddle.
Posted on 8/25/15 at 1:15 pm to Big Scrub TX
Which long straddle are you playing? ~$110?
Posted on 8/25/15 at 1:17 pm to Louie T
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Which long straddle are you playing? ~$110?
You can check out the separate thread about it but since I like leaning long a bit, I'm partial to selling more of an upside one - maybe the 120 or 125. Jan 17 expiry.
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