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Any trailer park owners in here?

Posted on 2/18/17 at 7:20 pm
Posted by Rust Cohle
Baton rouge
Member since Mar 2014
1929 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 7:20 pm
I ran across a deal that is 4, half-acre lots. Three with trailers, that rent for 750 a month. Asking price is 145k. I calculated it cash flowing 15k on a loan(if I can get one). That's with 6000 in expenses. So for 20% down (29k) I making a ROI of 51%. I rode by the place today, and it's not horrible. There is a neighboring lot that is kind of junkie. It's just hard to pull the trigger to invest in something like that. I guess if I got someone to manage it, that might alleviate most of my reservations.
Posted by BigD13
French Settlement La
Member since Sep 2013
2513 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 8:39 pm to
I own 3 rent trailers on 2.5 acres that bring in $2900 a month. I love renting trailers and have had no trouble. I would have no problem making a offer on that property.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 8:53 pm to
My dad use to own one. If you are going to buy it be prepared to evict people. My dad had no problem getting rid of the people that were on drugs or just not interested in working, but he had an almost 90 year old lady that ironed clothes to make a living. She could never make rent, but my dad couldn't kick her out obviously. He made money, but ended up selling it after only a couple of years because it was more trouble than it was worth.

I guess moral of the story is you know what type of property you are renting so be prepared to deal with the stuff that will inevitably happen.
Posted by Rust Cohle
Baton rouge
Member since Mar 2014
1929 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 9:05 pm to
Kicking tenants out will be my biggest challenge, conflict is not in my nature. But I think if I am professional and stick to my rules I will be OK. I don't worry about having to make someone leave, but I do worry about the evection process, and having to pay thousands of dollars to get someone to leave. That is why so many people emphasize tenant selection, and not giving an inch when it comes to late payments.

I can't imagine someone not paying rent, and just staying in your house unwanted. I hear about landlords taking the front door of the trailer, but that's when they destroy shite.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 9:16 pm to
Like I said, my dad and a lot others make money from trailer parks. Another problem my dad had was getting rent from some tenants. If rent was late on the 5th he would start trying to get it, and some of these people won't pay until they know they are really about to get evicted so it turns into a huge PIA every month. I'm not trying to talk you out of it, but if you know the confrontation is going to be a problem for you it is something to seriously consider and at least get yourself ready for it if you are going to buy the property.

Luckily my dad kind of did a contingency type deal with the guy he got it from so he was able to sell it back to him with no problems.
Posted by Slickback
Deer Stand
Member since Mar 2008
27673 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 10:54 pm to
My grandpaw owned one and that was always my summer job through high school. He owned 20 trailers and a house. They were run down and for the worst of the worst. He/we did 90% of the work for ourselves. If you can handle most of the general maintenance and upkeep, don't mind cleaning up absolute filth, are ok with seeing your investment trashed, and can deal with trashy people then it can be a great investment.
Posted by BigD13
French Settlement La
Member since Sep 2013
2513 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:50 pm to
First off you have to understand the difference between a trailer park and 4 trailers on 2 acres.
A trailer park can have 50 trailers on 4 acres.

People that rent from you will be people wanting to pay more to be able to get out of trailer parks.

Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
19169 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 3:22 am to
SIL owns a couple trailor parks. Be prepared to do repair work . Generally these people tear up these trailers She is constantly working on them. I would rather just own lots and rent those out
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20435 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 3:36 am to
I read an article that said sex offenders were the best trailer park tenants. They can meet the terms of their probation, are not exposed to school children, etc., and often they honestly have no other recourse than to pay if you need to raise the rent, because their release terms prohibit them from living in many areas.

LINK

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“We were a family park when we first started. [But] about 20 years ago, I couldn’t get on the property because a drug dealer had separated from his girlfriend in the park across the street ... and there was a long line of cars because she was undercutting her boyfriend.” Lee, 70, says she was advised that if she took in sex offenders the drug dealers would leave. “So, I started taking in sex offenders, and I have a very clean property. Sex offenders are watched by the news media, the TV, the sheriff’s department, probation, the department of corrections ... so when they are in there, the drug dealers and the other people don’t like to be around.” Sex offenders have been good for Lee financially, with park occupancy running at “1,000%”. She rents trailer pad spots for about $325 a month. The trailers are either owned by the tenant or rented from a third party. Many trailers are divided into three bedrooms, for which tenants are charged $500 a month per room. Lee claims she was once offered $5m for Lake Shore Park, which is home to about 50 trailers.
Posted by Rust Cohle
Baton rouge
Member since Mar 2014
1929 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 7:39 am to
That is an interesting strategy with sex offenders. I would never imagine in 100 years that that would be a good idea, but I can now. I know there's a documentary on a sex offender park, I could just never bring myself to watch it.

Just owning the lots seems like a good deal, but when they can't pay, they also can't afford to move their trailer. So you have to evict them, or you end up buying the trailer for pennies on the dollar.

I read one scenario where the park owner would sell the trailer to someone, and they would eventually be unable to pay, so he would buy it back from them for cheap. He had bought and sold most of the trailers in the park 2 or 3 times.
This post was edited on 2/19/17 at 7:40 am
Posted by Porker Face
Midnight
Member since Feb 2012
15298 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 8:31 pm to
I know a guy that if eviction process really drags on, he offers them $250 cash to just get the hell out. It's worked every time for less than <$400

Gotta remember who you're dealing with
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15068 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 9:11 pm to
quote:

He had bought and sold most of the trailers in the park 2 or 3 times.


That's fairly common. Works great in a small college town. Park owner sells used trailer to college kid or parents. Kid drops out or graduates. Park owner buys back trailer real cheap. Rinse, Repeat, or Rent.
Posted by SeasonOfSam
SELA
Member since Dec 2014
495 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 9:40 pm to
There's a guy in my old hometown that had the right strategy, IMHO....

He would provide Owner Financing for the trailer, and charge rent on the lot. Couple of perks:
1. They are buying the trailer so the tenant was responsible for their own maintenance
2. They usually had poor credit, so he hit them for 6-8%
3. When they weren't able to make payments he kicked them out, then re-sold the trailer. Obviously keeping all of the money from the original tenants.

If they were able to pay off the trailer, he'd make them move it out to start the process over again.
Posted by Rust Cohle
Baton rouge
Member since Mar 2014
1929 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 9:52 pm to
I am reading that Dodd Frank law has made owner financing almost impossible.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22204 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 9:55 am to
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If you are going to buy it be prepared to evict people.
There's the fly in the ointment. I would take a few extra minutes and drive home the point that you have to pay your rent or you have to leave. If you think that's an easy concept for your renters to understand - think again.
Posted by DeafVallyBatnR
Member since Sep 2004
16785 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 2:06 pm to
It's not the trailer itself that will be the most problem. It's the people who live in trailer parks.

Big mistake.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20359 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 2:58 pm to
Here's the thing with evicting people, you just have to be timely and firm but fair. You start off with tenant selection, but then when you find someone you absolutely drive home the fact that rent is due on X date, there's a late fee on Y date, and if you don't have money by Z date they will have a letter on their door the next day of eviction. Then you go over that again so they truly understand.

Then you tell them you will come by on the X date -1 to change the filter on their AC and to collect the rent payment, that they can make it out for X but you need to have it in your hand. I call my tenants though I don't have a ton, on the 3rd and I tell them I'm coming by on the 4th to change their filter and get their money.

Don't mess around, don't show up a day late or give them any wiggle room. Low end tenants like firm rules, you need to be firm or nothing will get done. If you are firm, as said you evict with no emotion or offer them money to leave. Then move on.

The key to trailer parks is being able to start them on dirt cheap land that you can eventually sell for a large profit. A large trailer park by me was just turned into a Toyota Dealership, I haven't looked up what it sold for but I'm sure a couple mil.
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