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401k Rollover
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:32 pm
I have a couple of 401ks at former employers that I'd like to rollover into IRAs. Part of these funds are Roth and part are not. What's the best way to go about rolling everything into Roths and is there a way to know what my tax hit would be to do so?
Also, was looking at going Vanguard, however my current employer uses Vanguard for 401k. Is this something I should avoid from a diversification perspective and if so, any reccs on a mutual fund company to look into?
Also, was looking at going Vanguard, however my current employer uses Vanguard for 401k. Is this something I should avoid from a diversification perspective and if so, any reccs on a mutual fund company to look into?
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:39 pm to saw36
Generally I just open a traditional and a Roth and then it's easier to do a conversion after all the funds are out of the 401ks. You have an option to withhold taxes on the conversion.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 3:00 pm to LG2BAMA
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You have an option to withhold taxes on the conversion.
Im pretty positive that's not standard practice an if you w/h taxes on a conversion then that's considered a distribution and you will get penalized and taxed on that w/h.
Posted on 11/16/16 at 9:23 am to Shepherd88
you are taxed on a roth conversion. you can either send the money directly from your account to the govt. or you are going to get a 1099 at the end of the year to pay it. the only thing you are avoiding is the 10% penalty
Posted on 11/16/16 at 10:22 am to LG2BAMA
I understand you are taxed on a conversion, but you cannot w/h taxes from that T IRA for the purposes of the conversion. Those taxes will have to be paid out of pocket.
Posted on 11/16/16 at 10:43 am to Shepherd88
no you can. actually most institutions will automatically withhold 10% unless you specify that you don't want any withholding
Posted on 11/16/16 at 10:50 am to LG2BAMA
Whatever dude, do what you want but w/h that $ from an IRA for the purpose of a conversion will result in a penalty.
I.e. I convert a $100k T IRA into a Roth and w/h 20% ($20k will be considered a distribution and penalized an taxed).
I.e. I convert a $100k T IRA into a Roth and w/h 20% ($20k will be considered a distribution and penalized an taxed).
Posted on 11/16/16 at 11:01 am to Shepherd88
This is how it works..
you have a 100k Traditional Ira.
you decide to do a conversion and withhold 20%
Your broker will then send 20k directly to the IRS
and you will now have your new Roth ira with 80k in it.
you have a 100k Traditional Ira.
you decide to do a conversion and withhold 20%
Your broker will then send 20k directly to the IRS
and you will now have your new Roth ira with 80k in it.
Posted on 11/16/16 at 11:33 am to LG2BAMA
And that 20k has now exited your IRA and considered a distribution... lol
Posted on 11/16/16 at 11:49 am to Shepherd88
ok I stand corrected thank you
Posted on 11/16/16 at 12:52 pm to LG2BAMA
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no you can.
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Whatever dude,
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ok I stand corrected thank you
Posted on 2/8/17 at 11:14 am to saw36
Thought I'd try this again bc I still haven't found a good answer to my original question. Plus, this thread devolved into a pissing contest quite rapidly.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 11:45 am to saw36
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Also, was looking at going Vanguard, however my current employer uses Vanguard for 401k. Is this something I should avoid from a diversification perspective and if so, any reccs on a mutual fund company to look into?
There is no diversification issue in going with Vanguard just because your current employer also uses Vanguard. Diversification would have to do with how your investable funds are allocated. For example, having 100% of your investable funds allocated to S&P 500 index funds (Healthcare ETFs or whatever) at Vanguard and Fidelity or Vanguard and T.D. Ameritade would not make you more diversified. Although I don't have an account at Vanguard, I do hold some Vanguard products in other accounts. They tend to be some of the lowest cost investment funds out there.
As for the first part of your question in the OP, the best thing to do would be to call customer service at Vanguard (or whatever company you choose) or a tax professional, and ask that question.
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