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re: $300,000 home cash, or 50% down $600,000 home in a nicer neighborhood
Posted on 12/8/16 at 8:06 am to crazycubes
Posted on 12/8/16 at 8:06 am to crazycubes
if it was me
1) put $100,000 down on what suits your needs($300,000-$450,000)
2) keep $75,000
3) invest $125,000 in a long term investment that will pay off
1) put $100,000 down on what suits your needs($300,000-$450,000)
2) keep $75,000
3) invest $125,000 in a long term investment that will pay off
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 8:09 am
Posted on 12/8/16 at 8:35 am to ItNeverRains
But the next 15-30 years the average yield could be historically low. 3,45,6,7,8 no one knows what the average yield will be over that period. That's why it's questionable. There is risk, but if the market performs better there is also reward.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 8:40 am to TigerSaints318
Depends where in the country. Generally, I would go for a smaller, nicer house. I have zero obsession over a massive house.
I don't need a 4,000+ sq ft house. Give me a 2000-2400 sq ft house and I'll travel the world with the excess cash in my pocket.
I don't need a 4,000+ sq ft house. Give me a 2000-2400 sq ft house and I'll travel the world with the excess cash in my pocket.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 9:07 am to lynxcat
Bingo, I see families in much bigger houses than they need with 2 new cars in their driveway....that are barely getting by and cannot afford vacations.
Life is best when you're living it.
Life is best when you're living it.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 9:09 am to Serraneaux
Here in Monroe County Florida it's about $1300 on $300k. You don't get much from paying the property taxes. The schools are mostly funded through a 1/2 cent sales tax that doesn't really burden the local population. Schools are pretty well funded.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 9:37 am to Jp1LSU
Also, I wouldn't put $300k down on a house if you just have it laying around. That's liquid money that you could invest or do something else with (buy a rental property or two). Think about how long it would take you to save this amount of money? Saving $2k a month for 10 years would theoretically only get you to $240k (with no interest earned). It would take time and discipline (which most people don't have) to save that kind of money each and every month when life is happening (kids, daycare, medical expenses, new car, etc.).
Personally, I'd split the difference, buy in the 450k range, put 20% down to avoid PMI, and try to swing a 15 year mortgage and keep the rest of the cash.
Personally, I'd split the difference, buy in the 450k range, put 20% down to avoid PMI, and try to swing a 15 year mortgage and keep the rest of the cash.
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 12/8/16 at 10:11 am to Old Sarge
ya but sarge at the same time your home is your biggest investment for most couples so I'd recommend buying the biggest most expensive you can afford. Sure bills are more for taxes,lights,etx but my parents live inside the loop in houston, and they bought their house when I was probably 10-12 years old, early 90s like 91 or 92 I wanna say. They're up nearly 5x on it now.....and thats in houston, other markets im sure saw significantly more. Thats equity to where if they want to downsize now, they can and pay cash for a smaller place now as they've aged and work less.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 10:26 am to dabigfella
Thats fair, everyone needs to find the right balance for them. I do see the logic for some of it forcing them into a nest egg that they otherwise might not of created. My homes are not my biggest savings vehicle but I do look forward to cashing out on my larger home upon retirement and adding its value to my savings.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:36 am to crazycubes
Are you independently wealthy? Do you ever desire to be independent?
Posted on 12/8/16 at 12:19 pm to Old Sarge
quote:
But the next 15-30 years the average yield could be historically low. 3,45,6,7,8 no one knows what the average yield will be over that period. That's why it's questionable. There is risk, but if the market performs better there is also reward.
If that were the case, then real estate prices would mirror the market and you would've essentially put a majority of your money into a depreciating asset. Speculation will always play second fiddle to data for me. But I understand The counter argument and all it's perceived pros and cons.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 1:57 pm to crazycubes
I know it may not be the mathematically correct choice, but I am picking no mortgage every time. When my wife got sick and passed not having the stress of a mortgage payment to deal with was a big deal. It allowed me to take time away from our business, and spend more time with her.
People often forget that a lot of the time personal finance is not always about what the numbers say. There is that personal side to it, so how you feel about the data is an important part to the decision.
People often forget that a lot of the time personal finance is not always about what the numbers say. There is that personal side to it, so how you feel about the data is an important part to the decision.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 4:22 pm to dabigfella
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parents live inside the loop in houston, and they bought their house when I was probably 10-12 years old, early 90s like 91 or 92 I wanna say. They're up nearly 5x on it now.....and thats in houston, other markets im sure saw significantly more
And other markets sure saw significantly less. Plus, your parents probably took a loan out. At current interest rates, if you borrow 100k, you are going to pay double that over a 30 year mortgage. And that doesn't include taxes and insurance. So your parents house has increased 5x's, but they paid 2x's the original price. So although that's a good investment, it's still not insane.
If you'd invest that cash and get a 7% return over that same period, you'd quadruple your investment. So maybe blowing the money on a house you don't need isn't that wise.
And to top it all off, your parents are in the heart of one of the fastest growing areas in the country over the last few decades. Most people aren't seeing that type of return. I've probably lost some value in my house over the last two years in the Houston area due to the oilfield situation. Homes should not be considered an investment. Or at least their primary function should not be (excluding flipping houses and stuff). You should definitely take the investment aspect of the house into consideration, but it should be secondary as the market is as volatile as any.
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