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USMCTiger03
Team Gun
Member since Sep 2007
34115 posts


OBAMA'S Rise to Power
Obama, with the help of his cultlike followers whom I call "Obamites", has somehow positioned himself as "above the fray" of dirty politics, perhaps in conjunction with his "change, hope" feel-good platform.

His rise to power shows many interesting, even odd, turns of events that led him where he is today. In some cases, he himself acted to attain victory. In other cases, strange events occurred which do not seem to be directly linked to him, but the sheer coincidence is compelling: 2 campaigns were essentially won by late-breaking scandals from released court records.

In his one and only true test, in the 2000 US Representative primary, Obama lost by a huge margin.

This is a work in progress.

I. 1996 ILLINOIS STATE SENATE 13TH DIST. PRIMARY: Unopposed by challenging opponent’s petitions and having them forced off ballot.

Obama won the 1996 primary unopposed after knocking four opposing Democrats off the primary ticket by challenging their petitions, including the incumbent, Sen. Alice Palmer who had stepped down to run for Congress, informally endorsed Obama, lost, and re-entered the race for the 13th District seat.

A. Ruthless Technicalities.

“The day after New Year's 1996, operatives for Barack Obama filed into a barren hearing room of the Chicago Board of Election Commissioners. There they began the tedious process of challenging hundreds of signatures on the nominating petitions of state Sen. Alice Palmer, the longtime progressive activist from the city's South Side. And they kept challenging petitions until every one of Obama's four Democratic primary rivals was forced off the ballot.
But in that initial bid for political office, Obama quickly mastered the bare-knuckle arts of Chicago electoral politics. His overwhelming legal onslaught signaled his impatience to gain office, even if that meant elbowing aside an elder stateswoman like Palmer.

A close examination of Obama's first campaign clouds the image he has cultivated throughout his political career: The man now running for president on a message of giving a voice to the voiceless first entered public office not by leveling the playing field, but by clearing it.”

B. Alice Palmer, et al.

“Palmer served the district in the Illinois Senate for much of the 1990s. Decades earlier, she was working as a community organizer in the area when Obama was growing up in Hawaii and Indonesia. She risked her safe seat to run for Congress and touted Obama as a suitable successor, according to news accounts and interviews. But when Palmer got clobbered in that November 1995 special congressional race, her supporters asked Obama to fold his campaign so she could easily retain her state Senate seat.

Obama not only refused to step aside, he filed challenges that nullified Palmer's hastily gathered nominating petitions, forcing her to withdraw.

Another candidate he eliminated, long-shot contender Gha-is Askia, now says that Obama's petition challenges belied his image as a champion of the little guy and crusader for voter rights. "Why say you're for a new tomorrow, then do old-style Chicago politics to remove legitimate candidates?" Askia said. "He talks about honor and democracy, but what honor is there in getting rid of every other candidate so you can run scot-free? Why not let the people decide?"

In a recent interview, Obama granted that "there's a legitimate argument to be made that you shouldn't create barriers to people getting on the ballot."

But the unsparing legal tactics were justified, he said, by obvious flaws in his opponents' signature sheets. "To my mind, we were just abiding by the rules that had been set up," Obama recalled.

"I gave some thought to … should people be on the ballot even if they didn't meet the requirements," he said. "My conclusion was that if you couldn't run a successful petition drive, then that raised questions in terms of how effective a representative you were going to be."”

“Had Palmer survived the petition challenge, Obama would have faced the daunting task of taking on an incumbent senator. Palmer's elimination marked the first of several fortuitous political moments in Obama's electoral success: He won the 2004 primary and general elections for U.S. Senate after tough challengers imploded when their messy divorce files were unsealed.

And he defended his use of ballot maneuvers: "If you can win, you should win and get to work doing the people's business."” Source generally: Obama knows his way around a ballot, David Jackson and Ray Long, Chicago Tribune, April 3, 2007

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USMCTiger03
Team Gun
Member since Sep 2007
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re: OBAMA'S Rise to Power
II. 1996 ILLINOIS STATE SENATE 13TH DIST. GENERAL ELECTION: Unopposed
After forcing out his fellow Democrats in the primary, Obama was elected unopposed to the Illinois State Senate in 1996 representing the 13th District, comprising the university neighborhood of Hyde Park in south Chicago.

III. 2000 U.S. Representative Primary: Lost against Incumbent.

In Obama's first real test as a politician, he lost handily (by approximately 30% of the vote) to the incumbent and fellow African-American Bobby Rush.

Obama Adviser and former Congressman Abner J. Mikva was quoted as saying "“Bobby Rush had not been the most active member of Congress from Illinois, but there was no issue that made him particularly vulnerable,” Mr. Mikva said. “He hadn’t robbed a bank or beaten his grandmother or things like that. In that respect, I was concerned.” NY Times, September 9, 2007.

IV. 2004 U.S. SENATE PRIMARY: Unopposed due to “late-breaking” scandal resulting from divorce records being unsealed.

"In early polls leading up to the March 16, 2004, primary election, candidate Blair Hull enjoyed a substantial lead and widespread name recognition resulting from a well-financed advertisement effort." Then ironically scandal took out Blair Hull. Obama was once again unopposed in the primary.

A month before the primary elections a news story broke out regarding his divorce from his ex-wife. She had sought a restraining order against him during their divorce in 1998. Hull tried to keep the divorce records sealed, but pressure from journalists and his opposing candidates forced him to release them.

The papers claimed that his ex-wife alleged that during a physical fight between them he had threatened to kill her, this led to his arrest for battery, however no charges were ever filed. Source: The Rise and Fall of Blair Hull, William Voegeli, The Claremont Institute, March 19, 2004

V. 2004 U.S. SENATE GENERAL ELECTION: Scandal knocked out Republican candidate due to divorce records being unsealed.
The Republican nominee, Jack Ryan, withdrew due to a sex scandal on June 25, 2004, and other potential draftees (most notably former Chicago Bears coach Mike Ditka) declined to run. On August 8, 2004 – with 86 days to go before the general election – the Illinois Republican Party drafted Alan Keyes to run against Democrat Barack Obama for the U.S. Senate.
Ryan and actress Jeri Ryan divorced in 1999 in California, and the records of the divorce were sealed at their mutual request. Five years later, when Ryan's Senate campaign began, the Chicago Tribune newspaper and WLS-TV, the local ABC affiliate, sought to have the records released. Both Ryan and his wife agreed to make their divorce records public, but not make the custody records public, claiming that the custody records could be harmful to their son if released.

On June 22, 2004, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Robert Schnider, a Democrat, agreed to release the custody files. The decision to release these files generated much controversy because it went against both parents' direct request and because it reversed the earlier decision to seal the papers in the best interest of the child. In those files, Jeri Ryan alleged that Jack Ryan had taken her to sex clubs in several cities, intending for them to have sex in public.
At the time of the release, Jeri Ryan, issued had a conciliatory statement, saying that she considered her ex-husband "a friend" and had "no doubt that he will make an excellent senator." She also said that "there was never any physical abuse in our marriage -- either to myself or to our son -- nor, to my knowledge, was he ever unfaithful to me."

The allegations were never proven, and in fact, Ryan was awarded additional custody rights at the end of the hearing, suggesting the allegations were not deemed reliable by the judge.





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Vic Ferrari
Oceania
Member since Feb 2008
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re: OBAMA'S Rise to Power


Supposedly Obama had a Godfather type in the Illinois legislature that bragged he was going to "make himself a U.S. Senator." He put Obama's name authoring a bunch of legislation he had nothing to do with and then bragged about the pork it brought back to his district. It's online.

None of this matters though. The days of actual policies and opinions and record are irrelevant.

We've entered the land of HOPE and CHANGE!








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Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
9931 posts


re: OBAMA'S Rise to Power
Congrats for the 2086th Obama bashing thread started on this board, none of which have anything to do with issues.

You can't argue issues because you're in the minority on every issue in front of the voters.

So bash hate bash hate bash hate bash hate.

Worked GREAT for you in 2006.

Keep on keeping on!





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USMCTiger03
Team Gun
Member since Sep 2007
34115 posts


re: OBAMA'S Rise to Power
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Supposedly Obama had a Godfather type in the Illinois legislature that bragged he was going to "make himself a U.S. Senator." He put Obama's name authoring a bunch of legislation he had nothing to do with and then bragged about the pork it brought back to his district. It's online.


That's interesting.





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USMCTiger03
Team Gun
Member since Sep 2007
34115 posts


re: OBAMA'S Rise to Power
This piece regarding the link between the Hull and Ryan smears that propelled Obama into office is interesting and places it as David Axelrod, already named in Obama's Whitehouse team and Democratic Media Advisor/Strategist for U.S. Senators Hillary Clinton, Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley, New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer and presidential campaign for Senator John Edwards.

There's an underbelly to this Obama thing that undeniably ugly and ruthless.

quote:

Axelrod paved the way for Obama

There was a question that came up yesterday about Blair Hull’s difficulties here in Illinois, and what in the heck precipitated it? We all have our theories, right? What I’m looking for is some kind of documentation to attest to the facts in this; bearing in mind that Obama’s chief media advisor at the time was David Axelrod, who was an advisor to the Clinton campaign. Axelrod, in fact, railed against the politics of personal destruction in the 1990s, and was also once a columnist for the Tribune and an advisor to Mayor Daley. Lynn Sweet at the Sun Times shows us Obama’s 2008 Whitehouse team, and at the top of the list is:

David Axelrod, media strategist. Founder of Chicago-based AKP Media. Handled Obama’s 2004 Senate race. “A” client list: consults for Mayor Daley, Rep. Rahm Emanuel.

According to CBS Radio, he’s even more accomplished than that:

David Axelrod, Chicago-based Democratic Media Advisor/Strategist for U.S. Senators Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley, New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer and presidential campaign for Senator John Edwards.

It just seems to be too great of a coincidence that Obama, who wasn’t backed by the kind of money Ryan and Hull had, ended up benefiting from the misery of two men who appeared to have been set up; one a democrat, the other a republican. Still, if you look at it from one viewpoint, they both could have been considered his political rivals. I have often voiced deep concerns about George Soros’ candidates which include Hillary, Kerry and Obama. But it’s not like we haven’t been aware of setups for scandal before.

There was a campaign the gay activists were putting together in order to crucify republicans in sex scandals, and we saw evidence of that with list that David Corn obtained in Washington regarding the Foley incident.

The scale was tipped on purpose.

In this piece from 2004, when I was about a week-old as a blogger and was still on blogspot, I wasn’t familiar with citing work, and using the blockquotes, and hadn’t mastered blogging 101 yet. Here’s the passage that prompted the inquiry:

…..the Tribune finally admitted that it was Axelrod and the Obama campaign that brought pressure on the press to demand the unsealing of M. Blair Hull divorce records, which had had their contents leaked to media outlets by the Obama campaign even earlier. The Obama campaign also helped orchestrate a demonstration by women’s groups demanding Hull’s withdrawal from the race. Coincidentally, this was the same weekend Obama’s first commercials hit the airwaves. Interestingly (or maybe not), the same exact thing happened to another of his rivals–Jack Ryan. Certainly gives one pause.

Certainly does. It was WLS-Channel 7 TV and the Chicago Tribune that filed suit to open Hull’s sealed divorce records. To be fair, the Chicago Tribune exposed Jack Ryan’s past, too, so this was a case of bipartisan snooping. Brent Bozell at the Media Research Center is right, though; journalists don’t cover liberal political scandals in quite the same way as conservative ones.

There’s not a whole lot else to say about this except that we’re looking for validation and citing beyond this blog; from the Tribune itself or some other source, into the veracity of that claim. I don’t recall how I stumbled upon that, and I’m sure that a lot of bloggers can relate to surfing the web, and not saving something into favorites, and ending up somewhere, not being able to retrace your steps.

From the Chicago Tribune:

In the Democratic primary, Obama found himself the overwhelming beneficiary when the campaign of former securities trader Blair Hull crashed in the aftermath of Hull’s release of court files from a messy divorce. Though Obama has been a passive beneficiary of Ryan’s latest problems, the Democrat’s campaign worked aggressively behind the scenes to fuel controversy about Hull’s filings.

Zenpundit:

Memogate is an aberration you say ? Did not Clarence Page’s own Chicago Tribune and local Chicago newsman Chuck Goudie give unusually heavy coverage of the divorce records of Democrat Blair Hull and Republican Jack Ryan to the benefit of a previously invisible, underfunded, candidate with the slenderest of legistative records, named Barack Obama? Was it accidental or a coincidence that the two opponents with the financial resources to bury Mr. Obama in the primary or general elections were relentlessly hammered on ” scandals” by the Trib while the same paper ran multipage ” puff ” pieces on Saint Obama ? If we searched the email database and phone records of senior editors at the Tribune how many messages would we find from the staff of David Axelrod ? Who happened to slip Chuck Goudie an ( allegedly) anonymous letter detailing Mr. Ryan’s many year old attempt to bring the then Mrs. Jerri Ryan to a sex club ? Did these two men do anything to deserve having their careers destroyed by a local media that had placed themselves so obviously in Mr. Obama’s corner that no Illinois politician dared to step into Mr. Ryan’s shoes ?

If the rest of the mainstream media does not come out front and center with strong ethics policies mandating nonpartisanship ( outside of the op-ed. page) they will find the public regarding the CBS fiasco as merely the tip of a liberal iceberg.





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USMCTiger03
Team Gun
Member since Sep 2007
34115 posts


re: OBAMA'S Rise to Power
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Congrats for the 2086th Obama bashing thread started on this board, none of which have anything to do with issues.

You can't argue issues because you're in the minority on every issue in front of the voters.

So bash hate bash hate bash hate bash hate.

Worked GREAT for you in 2006.

Keep on keeping on!


Poor little sheep

Obama's political life is built on smears. And HIS chickens are coming home to roost.

The issues have been addressed. BO is a socialist, which is fine if that's what you want.

But unless you are a fool, inasmuch as this thing isn't over, it would be wise for Dems to consider Hillary because this BO thing is just getting warmed up.

The guy is dirty.

But otherwise, it will be fun, and deserving, for the Obamites to be punished for their myopic obsession with this guy.





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ChicagoTiger
Chicago
Member since Feb 2007
3121 posts


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The guy is dirty.


Seriously, You need to email all the news outlets b/c outside of you and a few other Bashers on this Board, No one seems to care.

You're just bashing the guy to bash him. You aren't voting for him and you aren't going to convince others not to vote for him because they all tune you out dispelling your hate mongering as "kooky" in and of itself.

In this time of GOTCHA! politics and Sensational Media, don't you think they would have pounced on half of this stuff you have?

meh. Whatever





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Ray Ray Rodman
Member since Mar 2005
11434 posts


re: OBAMA'S Rise to Power
I think the main reason people look to Obama and his vaque message of Change, is more about "change" and not so much about Obama.

Its less of an belief in Obama as it is, they want change from the horrible politics and performance of both past and current Rep and Dems.

Its more about the American people not having any faith in the current system and leaders anymore.

Its more of a rejection of today's Rep and Dem leaders than an acceptance of Obama.

They think "anything is better than how it is".


Sad for both parties and America actually..





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USMCTiger03
Team Gun
Member since Sep 2007
34115 posts


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Seriously, You need to email all the news outlets b/c outside of you and a few other Bashers on this Board, No one seems to care.



I have. The MSM doesn't care about information, they have it all. They only care about the right "time" to release a story.

C'mon, you're not that naive are you?

And I disagree with the latter part of your sentence as well. In this age of media main control, the weapon average citizens have is the Internet. I assert that many major news stories have been precipitated by internet grassroots posting such as we exchange here.

Sorry if it doesn't benefit your guy.

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You're just bashing the guy to bash him. You aren't voting for him and you aren't going to convince others not to vote for him because they all tune you out dispelling your hate mongering as "kooky" in and of itself.



This is RICH.

This statement EMBODIES the very thing that is troubling about the Obamites: Blind obedience and accusing anyone who questions him of "HATE".

That is WRONG. This is an issue about a compelling part of Obama's credibility and genuineness.

Please point out the part of my post that contains HATEMONGERING. PLEASE. Your post accusing me of that is objectionable.

quote:

In this time of GOTCHA! politics and Sensational Media, don't you think they would have pounced on half of this stuff you have?

They pounce when the timing suits them unless they are forced to pounce because someone is beating them to the story.





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USMCTiger03
Team Gun
Member since Sep 2007
34115 posts


re: OBAMA'S Rise to Power
quote:

I think the main reason people look to Obama and his vaque message of Change, is more about "change" and not so much about Obama.

Its less of an belief in Obama as it is, they want change from the horrible politics and performance of both past and current Rep and Dems.

Its more about the American people not having any faith in the current system and leaders anymore.

Its more of a rejection of today's Rep and Dem leaders than an acceptance of Obama.

They think "anything is better than how it is".


Sad for both parties and America actually..



I'm pretty sure we are political opposites, but you bring substance without labeling anyone as a "hatemonger" (already so far) just because you disagree.

To your point, that's exactly the point I am trying to make, that Obama is painting himself as different and a change but in reality he is just more of the same.

The facts already show he panders to hatemongers and racebaiters and built his political career on their popularity, as well as, some very questionable campaign tactics.

Just more of the same.



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Original Bayou Boy
Flat Lake, LA
Member since Sep 2003
10268 posts


re: OBAMA'S Rise to Power
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In this time of GOTCHA! politics and Sensational Media, don't you think they would have pounced on half of this stuff you have?


As a proponent of Memetics, I'd be happy with "half of this stuff" being pounced on by the media.

There seems to be a fountain of reek, flowing from Obama and his cronies.

This will continue till the campaign ends.





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USMCTiger03
Team Gun
Member since Sep 2007
34115 posts


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As a proponent of Memetics, I'd be happy with "half of this stuff" being pounced on by the media.

There seems to be a fountain of reek, flowing from Obama and his cronies.

This will continue till the campaign ends.



As an example, do people know how long the Wright story has been floating around out there?? Since early to mid 2007, maybe sooner.

WHY did the media only jump on it now? It wasn't like the story needed to be verified, it's all out there in video format to watch and listen.





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USMCTiger03
Team Gun
Member since Sep 2007
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No response I guess?




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USMCTiger03
Team Gun
Member since Sep 2007
34115 posts


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You can't argue issues because you're in the minority on every issue in front of the voters.


Is this true?!?!

quote:

Would you like to see gun laws in this country made more strict, less strict, or remain as they are?"
2/8-10/08 More Strict 49% Less Strict 11% Remain As Are 38% Unsure 2%


Looks pretty even to me.

Want to see more?





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USMCTiger03
Team Gun
Member since Sep 2007
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I love how the Obamites complain about addressing the issues and when you do they still don't respond.




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eelsuee
2B+!2B
Member since Oct 2004
2467 posts


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So bash hate
bashing Obama is bashing hate.





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USMCTiger03
Team Gun
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Scoop
Bayou State
Member since Sep 2005
18784 posts


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I love how the Obamites complain about addressing the issues and when you do they still don't respond.


You know the score, bro.

Obama supporters have been proven shallow on this board too many times to count.

It would seem that if Obama has the most passionate following of any politician in modern history, they would eagerly champion his stances.

If they are numbered in the millions why can't we get one to discuss matters of substance?





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WampusCat56
piney woods
Member since Nov 2005
8641 posts


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Obama supporters have been proven shallow on this board too many times to count

They are shallow because they are supporting an even more shallow candidate than was Kerry or Gore.

Obama is a nothing - I wondered how he even got to the IL state legislature - thanks to USMC now I know - it was a fix.

No opponents - apparently, that is the way he likes to run elections - even for president. He would like to have no opponent.

Too bad sucker - you do have opponents. And when this charade of a DEM nomination process is over, you are going to see them by the millions. For now, we are just waiting and smiling at the demolition derby that is unfolding before us.

Obama's only hope in the general election is some form of big GOTCHA that the media will pull out of their hat the week before the election.

Do they have some DUI from when McCain was a teenager?

Do they have some forged document alleging McCain was a traitor?

The media is in the tank for Obama even now during this beauty contest amongst their toys. I can just imagine the slant when their favorite child is up against "them."

His background is a joke - his associates are either marxist, racist, or corrupt. He got where he is by old-time Chicago political thuggery. Welcome to "change" and "hope."



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