Gumps and Gadsden - SEC Football

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AU85Grad Member since May 2009 42 posts	Gumps and Gadsden (Posted on 6/4/09 at 8:36 a.m.) Not sure how I am supposed to say all this but I have been advised that I needed to set the story straight given the past few weeks of revelations. The history of the rumors about the gumps and Gadsden: 1) This started when JH went to bammer at the last minute instead of AU. A coach of his had ensured AU staff that he was headed to AU and not bammer. He was aware of what AU had offered JH and his mother stuff and possibly knew that JH mom had taped AU's offer. He still felt AU was his choice. JH put on the bammer hat and the ** hit the fan at AU. Our staff called the coach and asked him what happened and he said he did not know but would have to guess that bammer "countered" AU's offer. He never said he knew that bammer had cheated but that he guessed that took place. After this, he asked JH why he went to bammer and he said that if he went to AU he thought his eligibility might have been revoked if the NCAA found out about AU's offer. JH said bammer and MSST both played it straight with him and his mom and that is why he went to bammer. 2) This incident led the AU staff to believe that they lost out on the bidding for JH and they told people that bammer had cheated. At this point, the coach could not get the corrected story out there fast enough. Irontiger knows this coach and was told the first story about how the coach thought bammer cheated. Later, irontiger was told that bammer did not commit infractions but he had already started his own rumors and his reputation grew as well as his imagination. 3) Irontiger then brought in a few of us to help spread the rumors- myself (ITAT name withheld) sherpa88, troopT and a few others and then koury. I dropped out about three months ago when I found out they had hired a PI that might have broken some laws and when I confronted iron about it he said they would send the information anonymously and no one could trace it back to him. The problem is his big mouth and he could not stop talking about it - then everyone found out about operation red dog and who was in it. After I dropped out koury joined the inside board back in March of this year as the repeat and sounding board of irontiger. The plan was simple: irontiger would start the thread and a few of us would join in and then someone would come back and verify everything irontiger has said was truthful- that is koury's job now. 4) During the past 16 months this has been going on. The MO was to stay the same in every area. Charge that recruits got new cars- Mobile was escalades and Gadsden was chargers. Start new rumors along the way about booster infractions, enticements and other benefits as much as we can. The most effective thing that irontiger came up with was that when any bammer player does something immediately tie it to an infraction. If julio and mark goes fishing a booster paid for it- it was really simple. If KK got a car immediately say a booster paid for it even though in this case they knew for sure it came from his mothers college fund for him. Now everyone knows how this happened. Now to the why. We all knew that CTT and staff were not going to be effective against Miles, Saban, Richt and Meyer. We had to negate one of them and the easiest one was to hit Saban. We choose him due to his proximity and volatility of our rivalry with bammer. We all really thought CNS was cheating a little (secondary type stuff)and thought if we can keep enough rumors churning we could get the NCAA to investigate or at the least keep a few recruits away from bammer. Irontiger knew this would work and said, "the idiot masses on ITAT will believe any rumor we put out about bammer because they want to believe it"! I was skeptical until I saw the masses believing every rumor even as our gang accidentally got the rumors incorrect many times- types of cars, colors and amounts of cash. Each time we told the rumor it seemed to grow and our fanbase kept believing every one of them until Michael14 and Austudent22 caught on to us and called us out for it. You will see more revelations about this coming from multiple boards as they have started figuring out that 4-5 posters on ITAT started all these rumors. Once it went so far I told irontiger that coaches at these schools were being implicated as cheaters from the AU fanbase and that we should call it off and he said those ***** coaches were bammers and he did not care if they got called cheaters. I told him that they weren't cheaters and that they had started calling into AU's athletic department complaining about. When the PIs and reporters showed up and questioned these high school coaches about cheating for bammer they wrote AU off. This really hit the fan around March of 2009 and that is when I left irons group. I know for a fact that irons rumors cost us 2 recruits last year (one four star and one 5 star) because the coaches at there school were called cheaters by the rumors started on ITAT. Our 2009 recruiting efforts were dramatically hurt by these rumors and 2010 is looking just as bad for instate recruits. I stayed on the fringe until last week when the PTB at AU sent word to me and irontiger that it had to stop. Irontioger stopped for a day or so and then started rehashing it all over again. He has troopT and koury doing the heavy posting now and he just "supports" the rumors instead of "initiating" them. If our own posters knew just how stupid irontiger said they were they would not follow his rumors any more. Now, I have completed the task I was advised to do. Once PF gets to the bottom of this and the package that iron put together it will turn litigious. This post was edited on 6/4 at 8:43 a.m.
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bamaatlsu Baton Rouge Member since Mar 2007 4320 posts	re: Gumps and Gadsden (Posted on 6/4/09 at 8:41 a.m. to AU85Grad) Are you the guy that is supposed to keep us entertained since CPA is gone?
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tuck In bread cracker Member since Oct 2007 9952 posts Online	re: Gumps and Gadsden (Posted on 6/4/09 at 8:44 a.m. to AU85Grad) This all sounds very reasonable to me. I'm glad you've had a change of heart and are now trying to improve your University the "right" way, instead of spreading falsehoods that surely will come back to haunt you. Good luck to you.
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NorthGwinnettTiger Suwanee, GA Member since Jun 2006 6083 posts	re: Gumps and Gadsden (Posted on 6/4/09 at 8:44 a.m. to bamaatlsu) I'd settle for him just shooting himself and save us the bull shite.
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UAHistory T-town Member since Jan 2009 466 posts	re: Gumps and Gadsden (Posted on 6/4/09 at 8:45 a.m. to bamaatlsu) Cliffs notes please.
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AU85Grad Member since May 2009 42 posts	re: Gumps and Gadsden (Posted on 6/4/09 at 8:46 a.m. to bamaatlsu) Are you the guy that is supposed to keep us entertained since CPA is gone? No. Although I do know who CPA is on the ITAT premium board. He pisses off all fans alike. I just did what I was told and severed all ties with the ITAT insiders for my own legal protection. BTW- AU will probably be disassociating Lowder in the near future as well by NCAA mandate.
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Bama Doug Bryant Denny Stadium, FF Row 40, 24 Member since Oct 2003 6167 posts	re: Gumps and Gadsden (Posted on 6/4/09 at 8:47 a.m. to AU85Grad) Help me with a couple of things. What does ITAT and PTB stand for?
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NorthGwinnettTiger Suwanee, GA Member since Jun 2006 6083 posts	re: Gumps and Gadsden (Posted on 6/4/09 at 8:48 a.m. to Bama Doug) ITAT is the auburn scout site...where this shite should stay. PTB is powers that be
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AU85Grad Member since May 2009 42 posts	re: Gumps and Gadsden (Posted on 6/4/09 at 8:51 a.m. to NorthGwinnettTiger) ITAT is the auburn scout site...where this shite should stay. PTB is powers that be This has to be posted on every site that I know that re-told the rumors. I trust you can see why? Retractions have to follow protocol.
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tuck In bread cracker Member since Oct 2007 9952 posts Online	re: Gumps and Gadsden (Posted on 6/4/09 at 8:51 a.m. to UAHistory) quote: Cliffs notes please. JH was offered a sweet deal and everyone thought he was all barn. At the last minute he switched and the barner posters came up with the idea we must have outbid them. JH's mom has proof that AU offered and has said Bama didn't offer anything. AU posters on ITAT started a disinformation campaign as a result that involved calling us cheaters everytime we got a recruit. High school coaches were offended by all the accusations and all the lies these auburn posters were spreading. These lies were actually coming back and causing recruits to pick UA over them in spite of sweet deals AU made them. This post was edited on 6/4 at 8:53 a.m.
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UAHistory T-town Member since Jan 2009 466 posts	re: Gumps and Gadsden (Posted on 6/4/09 at 8:52 a.m. to tuck) Oooohhhh....much appreciated.
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Stupid the Kid Dumbville Member since Dec 2008 4381 posts	re: Gumps and Gadsden (Posted on 6/4/09 at 8:53 a.m. to NorthGwinnettTiger) people need to get a life. football is only a game. but i guess in a state devoid of any culture, people get carried away by a meaningless passtime.
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tuck In bread cracker Member since Oct 2007 9952 posts Online	re: Gumps and Gadsden (Posted on 6/4/09 at 8:53 a.m. to AU85Grad) quote: This has to be posted on every site that I know that re-told the rumors. Who spread the rumors here? CPA? CC Tiger? Luke? All of the above? This post was edited on 6/4 at 8:54 a.m.
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bamaatlsu Baton Rouge Member since Mar 2007 4320 posts	re: Gumps and Gadsden (Posted on 6/4/09 at 8:55 a.m. to AU85Grad) quote: Retractions have to follow protocol sounds like AU85Grad has been talking to a lawyer or something Maybe this is for real For now, I'm gonna file this along with all the rumors that were spread about 'Bama over the last few years. At this point I really don't care, just let the coaches coach and the players play.
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I-59 Tiger Island of Mis-fit Toys Member since Sep 2003 17677 posts	re: Gumps and Gadsden (Posted on 6/4/09 at 8:55 a.m. to tuck) Who is JH ?
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Bama Doug Bryant Denny Stadium, FF Row 40, 24 Member since Oct 2003 6167 posts	re: Gumps and Gadsden (Posted on 6/4/09 at 8:56 a.m. to AU85Grad) quote: Once PF gets to the bottom of this and the package that iron put together it will turn litigious. So what is in "The Package"?
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tuck In bread cracker Member since Oct 2007 9952 posts Online	re: Gumps and Gadsden (Posted on 6/4/09 at 8:56 a.m. to I-59 Tiger) Jerrell Harris This post was edited on 6/4 at 8:57 a.m.
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NorthGwinnettTiger Suwanee, GA Member since Jun 2006 6083 posts	re: Gumps and Gadsden (Posted on 6/4/09 at 8:58 a.m. to Stupid the Kid) quote: people need to get a life. football is only a game. +1,000,000 It's people like this guy, and partsman, and the others on both sides of the fence that take the fun out of this rivalry. I sincerely mean it when I say that I hope everyone of them go bankrupt and can't afford internet, let alone tickets to watch either team play. The AU/UA rivalry would be better off without any of them. This post was edited on 6/4 at 8:59 a.m.
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Crimsoncutie98 Florence, Al Member since Oct 2008 13768 posts Online	re: Gumps and Gadsden (Posted on 6/4/09 at 9:00 a.m. to NorthGwinnettTiger) Good grief, people are taking this stuff way too far.
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NorthGwinnettTiger Suwanee, GA Member since Jun 2006 6083 posts	re: Gumps and Gadsden (Posted on 6/4/09 at 9:02 a.m. to Crimsoncutie98) quote: Good grief, people are taking this stuff way too far. Maybe we could see some pics to lighten the mood a little bit around here....
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