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"You are what your record says you are"

Posted on 1/2/17 at 6:42 pm
Posted by AlwaysPutsSeatDown
Member since May 2008
986 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 6:42 pm
Bill Parcell's response when he was coaching the Dallas Cowboys when was asked if his team was really an 8-3 team instead of its actual record of 5-6. The point is this LSU team, as shameful and frustrating as it is, has a record of 8-4 and is an 8-4 team. Anyone who thinks differently needs to get over it!
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75125 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 6:44 pm to
Agreed
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
18962 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 6:49 pm to
Someone inform the 2011 New York Giants that their 9-7 record & Wild Card birth makes their Super Bowl Championship null & void since the 49ers, Packers, Saints & Falcons had better records in the NFC that year.
Posted by Brendoni
Oklahoma City, Ok
Member since Apr 2009
21282 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 6:51 pm to
would have won 9, if the florida debacle didn't frick them out of playing south Alabama.
This post was edited on 1/2/17 at 6:53 pm
Posted by LSU1SLU
Member since Mar 2013
7054 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 6:53 pm to
Ok cool. Season is over. So actually we are 0-0 and have a bright future. You are what you are.... A mouth breather
Posted by AlwaysPutsSeatDown
Member since May 2008
986 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 6:54 pm to
In 2011 the Giants made it to the playoff and then they won and won big!
Posted by Armymann50
Playing with my
Member since Sep 2011
17030 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 6:55 pm to
In Horseshoes and Hand Grenades they would be 12-0
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20355 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 6:57 pm to
I agree 100%.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89472 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 6:58 pm to
Well - this is true to a large degree, but somewhat misleading for LSU this season. You can play the "what if" game forever with football, but LSU is identifiably 3 or 4 specific plays from being a 1 loss team this year. That's not conjecture - that's literal fact.

quote:

Anyone who thinks differently needs to get over it!


Agreed.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
18962 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 7:02 pm to
quote:

In 2011 the Giants made it to the playoff and then they won and won big!


NFC Championship Game Giants 20 49ers 17

Super Bowl XLVI Giants 21 Patriots 17
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21118 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 7:03 pm to
That is usually the case, but in this case, I completely disagree.

This team was completely mismanaged by coaching in at least 3 games. The talent on the team is MUCH better than 8-4. This is a 10-2 type team, at the very least, and nothing that Parcels says will make me think otherwise.

Sorry.
Posted by JYD
Pineville
Member since Oct 2003
7734 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 7:04 pm to
quote:

Someone inform the 2011 New York Giants that their 9-7 record & Wild Card birth makes their Super Bowl Championship null & void since the 49ers, Packers, Saints & Falcons had better records in the NFC that year.


NFL/NCAA = Apples/Oranges
Posted by TigerinDunbarton
Dunbarton
Member since Sep 2016
1735 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 7:06 pm to
Wasting your time with these guys, look at the posters that chimed in approval...Paul Allen, Brazos, etc......guys that eat, breath, and sleep to shite all over Lsu and spew negativity
Posted by Tony The Tiger
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2003
2583 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 7:31 pm to
quote:

This team was completely mismanaged by coaching in at least 3 games. The talent on the team is MUCH better than 8-4. This is a 10-2 type team, at the very least, and nothing that Parcels says will make me think otherwise


Last I checked, coaches are part of a team. What you are arguing is talent and potential, which is much different than team.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
18962 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 7:39 pm to
On the opposite end of the spectrum the 2010 Atlanta Falcons were the biggest fraud team I can recall having the best record & Home field advantage throughout the playoffs. That had two lucky wins as to where had they lost, they would not have been the #1 seed in the NFC.

Garrett Hartley missed a chip shot game winner allowing the Falcons to win later in OT.



And 49ers CB Nate Clements had what looked like a game sealing pick until he tried to run it back for a TD & was stripped by Roddy White.

Roddy White strip of Nate Clements

It only took the Falcons first playoff game to show how big of a freud they actually were.

Falcons 21 Packers 48

Packers expose fraud Falcons

I guess no one paid attention to Ohio St this year either. Everyone just looked at their record while having Urban Meyer as coach & assumed they belonged in the playoffs this year but they managed somehow to navigate the Big 10 with a weak arse passing game. Still waiting for them to score against Clemson.

Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
9590 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 7:40 pm to
What made you feel the need to post this? I'm pretty sure no one is saying we're #1.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
18962 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 7:42 pm to
quote:

NFL/NCAA = Apples/Oranges


Yep, it's not like there isn't College Football Playoff now & we just didn't witness a team that wasn't as good as their record indicated, get annihilated in a semifinal game either.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23326 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 7:45 pm to
Normally, in a typical college football season, I would fully agree. However, this year was so scattered with coaching changes and drama and injuries that I'll just set it aside. We can't know what the record would have been with O and Ensminger calling the shots from day one. We can't know how things would have turned out if Miles finished the year. It is what it is, but I'm not going to draw sweeping conclusions off of it because of all the loose variables.

As it is, with the coordinators we have, a lot of young talent in the wings that may actually get used properly now, and another stacked class coming in, there is a lot of reason for optimism in the near future. At least as long as we have Aranda and Canada on the staff. This season was sort of a world unto itself, and next season is a clean slate.
Posted by West Bank Dan
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2010
731 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 8:42 pm to
This is why college is better than pro. Every game, drive, play can be a turning point. It is nutty to think Harris doesn't throw the pick vs Wisconsin and the whole season could be different, still have Miles as coach, etc. Guice runs right instead of left and we're in the Sugar Bowl. In the pros teams with 9-7 records make the playoffs.
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
8176 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 8:54 pm to
I mean to say if college football had a 16 team playoff and we were the 16 seed and someone like Iowa was the 16 seed and then say both teams odds of winning is the same is just stupid. No one is saying we actually deserved to be in the playoffs or anything, but to say we wouldn't be favored over a whole lot of teams with better records based on our margin/quality/manner of defeats is just being obtuse
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