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re: Will LSU become a 3/4 loss team from 2013 forward?
Posted on 11/27/12 at 11:58 am to Cincinnati Bowtie
Posted on 11/27/12 at 11:58 am to Cincinnati Bowtie
Hell, last season the talking heads thought that LSU would lose 4 games before the end of October...
didn't happen....
didn't happen....
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Posted on 11/27/12 at 11:58 am to chinhoyang
No, a good team has a great shot at 10 wins every year now. There are only 2-4 games on the actual schedule every year. Split those and the fan base will be content.
Posted on 11/27/12 at 12:09 pm to chinhoyang
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Next year figure a three out of four losses when playing Florida, Alabama, TCU and Texas A and M. I bet that LSU would have 3 losses this year but LSU thwarted me by scraping by in four games that we won.
Please go become a fan of something else. I hear Louisiana is starting a professional shuffle board team. Go follow them.
Posted on 11/27/12 at 12:10 pm to mtheob17
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Please go become a fan of something else. I hear Louisiana is starting a professional shuffle board team. Go follow them.
He's not a fan bc he predicted 3 losses? I guess we had NO fans "in the 90's"
Posted on 11/27/12 at 12:17 pm to theunknownknight
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No, a good team has a great shot at 10 wins every year now. There are only 2-4 games on the actual schedule every year. Split those and the fan base will be content
Yeah, ask Lane Kiffin how that worked out this year. He and the rest of the media thought they could pencil in wins. Bottom line is you have to still go out there and win the games.
If a team is winning ~10 games a year, they're clearly operating a championship caliber program. That's all you can realistically hope for. No team should be expected to reel off mulitple consecutive championships, and if you find yourself expecting this, that's your own problem. If you can play for a championship every 4 years, that's an amazing schedule to keep up, and that's what Miles is averaging here.
Posted on 11/27/12 at 12:23 pm to Goldrush25
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If a team is winning ~10 games a year, they're clearly operating a championship caliber program.
Then I guess close to 25% of all NCAAF programs are championship caliber this year
Posted on 11/27/12 at 12:25 pm to chinhoyang
Arent you the same dude that said Idaho was going to beat us?
Posted on 11/27/12 at 12:29 pm to chinhoyang
We will lose 6 games per season until the end of time. Thanks for asking. 
Posted on 11/27/12 at 12:36 pm to theunknownknight
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Then I guess close to 25% of all NCAAF programs are championship caliber this year
How is 15% almost 25%?
The significance of winning 10 games before Bowl season is what's being stressed, so that means 10 wins with 2 losses.
10-2 > 9-3 before Bowl season. 2 losses has long been established as the cutoff for national championship contention in the BCS era. So anyone with 3 losses currently is not anywhere in the conversation as one of the nation's elite.
Also, 10 wins before Bowl season > 10 wins after Bowl season for simplification.
If you want to go ahead and say it all means the same thing then go right ahead. But after Bowl season we'll likely have 11 wins, so do the math for that as well.
This post was edited on 11/27/12 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 11/27/12 at 12:46 pm to Goldrush25
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How is 15% almost 25%?
Do I need to state the obvious or should I just sit back and wait for you to realize the season isn't over yet?
ETA: only about 10% won 10 games or more in the early nineties AFTER bowl season. We are on our way to over a 100% increase this season.
This post was edited on 11/27/12 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 11/27/12 at 1:02 pm to theunknownknight
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Do I need to state the obvious or should I just sit back and wait for you to realize the season isn't over yet?
ETA: only about 10% won 10 games or more in the early nineties AFTER bowl season. We are on our way to over a 100% increase this season.
What significance do teams currently with 9 wins hold in your eyes? They also have 3 losses, which means that they have had no shot of playing for a national championship for some time now.
Right now, 9-3 is not close to 10-2 in my eyes. What the frick do I care if that 9-3 teams gets double digit wins after their bowl game. It means nothing. They weren't legitimate BCS championship contenders.
Posted on 11/27/12 at 1:07 pm to RoosterCogburn585
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Wow, you guys really crack me up some times. It started with us somehow actually being better than Bama, even though we loss, and now, a two point game isn't close.....
Close int he sense of game scores is relative. If you watched the games then the point differential is most times meaningless. Was LSU really is danger of losing to say they "scraped by"? Really?
Posted on 11/27/12 at 1:11 pm to chinhoyang
why even post this kind of message???
Posted on 11/27/12 at 1:12 pm to chinhoyang
This is why they play them. If someone had told me LSU would go 13-0 in 2011 I would have doubted them. Just like if someone tells me they are going to lose 3 or 4 games I am going to doubt them. This program will continue to win at least 9 or 10 games for the forseeable future. If you win that many and the ball bounces the right way, very few injuries, as well as, off field troubles the national championships are going to happen.
Posted on 11/27/12 at 1:20 pm to rloyde43
Let's do an honest assessment of this season.
North Texas solid win
Washington solid win
Idaho solid win
Auburn scraped by, very lucky to win
Towson scraped by a weak team, could have lost
Florida lost, game not as close as score reflects
S.C. barely scraped by, lucky to win
Texas A and M barely scraped by, luck played role
Alabama solid loss
Miss State solid win
Ole Miss barely scraped by, lucky to win
Arkansas barely scraped by, lucky to win due to bad call by Ark. coach
Only one solid SEC win - Mississippi State. Every other game was a loss or weak win that easily could have been a loss.
Georgia beat Florida who beat LSU so LSU would clearly lose to Ga.
Miles has a lot of luck (which is good, he is truly blessed with the luck of a Mad Hatter). But, luck won't give you 1 or 2 loss seasons over time.
North Texas solid win
Washington solid win
Idaho solid win
Auburn scraped by, very lucky to win
Towson scraped by a weak team, could have lost
Florida lost, game not as close as score reflects
S.C. barely scraped by, lucky to win
Texas A and M barely scraped by, luck played role
Alabama solid loss
Miss State solid win
Ole Miss barely scraped by, lucky to win
Arkansas barely scraped by, lucky to win due to bad call by Ark. coach
Only one solid SEC win - Mississippi State. Every other game was a loss or weak win that easily could have been a loss.
Georgia beat Florida who beat LSU so LSU would clearly lose to Ga.
Miles has a lot of luck (which is good, he is truly blessed with the luck of a Mad Hatter). But, luck won't give you 1 or 2 loss seasons over time.
Posted on 11/27/12 at 1:21 pm to rloyde43
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This is why they play them. If someone had told me LSU would go 13-0 in 2011 I would have doubted them. Just like if someone tells me they are going to lose 3 or 4 games I am going to doubt them. This program will continue to win at least 9 or 10 games for the forseeable future. If you win that many and the ball bounces the right way, very few injuries, as well as, off field troubles the national championships are going to happen
Very well put.
The very best teams are going to average 10 wins a year. 10 is obviously not our ceiling because we've won as many as 13. If you can average 10 it means you're going to be playing for championships when the breaks fall your way. But make no mistake, every team needs a bit of luck to win a championship. All you can do is win a ton of games every year and hope for the best. Eventually the breaks will fall your way. It's simple probability.
But 10 wins is not the goal of the program. If it was we'd probably be averaging 8 wins a year.
Posted on 11/27/12 at 1:24 pm to chinhoyang
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Florida lost, game not as close as score reflects
S.C. barely scraped by, lucky to win
I like how you say the UF wasn't as close as score reflects but then say the USC we scraped by and were lucky to win just to skew your stats. Your posts suck dick and you are a fricking moron.
Posted on 11/27/12 at 1:27 pm to PurpleAndGold86
23-21 is a scrape by game, no matter how you want to spin it.
Posted on 11/27/12 at 1:28 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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I like how you say the UF wasn't as close as score reflects but then say the USC we scraped by and were lucky to win just to skew your stats.
I especially like that all of our wins by 1 score were games that he said we were lucky to win but when we lose by 1 score they were solid losses or not as close as the score indicates. LOL.
This just in; "Scrape-by" wins only count for 1/2 wins.
This post was edited on 11/27/12 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 11/27/12 at 1:34 pm to chinhoyang
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Admit that we easily could have had five or six losses this year.
But LSU didn't lose those games. Look, it is unwise to project something that has not happened. It is also unwise to select only data that proves a doom & gloom scenario when there is so much other data. For example: LSU lost tons of players before and during the season. Conversely, LSU has upwards of 17 starters returning and a QB with a year under his belt. While it would also be unwise for me to conclude a MNC because of these points, I still feel they will do very well.
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