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Will great recruiting overcome coaching/player development?

Posted on 1/15/15 at 7:30 am
Posted by Soft_Parade
Member since Sep 2005
2502 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 7:30 am
That seems to be Miles and Allevas bet. If X's and O's was the objective, Shoop would have been hired and changes would have been made to the offensive staff and special teams.
Posted by rsylve
Terrytown, LA
Member since Feb 2013
3775 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 7:34 am to
LSU has one problem. Fix the QB spot and the whole team is better. And I'm hopeful because with the great talent around them they don't have to be great. Average play and we're competing for titles. LSU recruits and develops well enough at every other spot.
This post was edited on 1/15/15 at 7:36 am
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 7:38 am to
How about both
Posted by MrPackSix
Lakeview/God's Country
Member since Oct 2009
8220 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 7:42 am to
Once everything is finalized with my avatar we are all set on offense

Jennings transfers closer to home (GA State) and Harris is #2
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22745 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 7:44 am to
Where is this player development myth coming from?

There are 3 units on a defensive football field:

1) DL- Oregeron, widely regarded as one of the top DL coaches in the country. History of physicality with his men who attack the qb.

2) LB- Steele, probably can't find a guy including Chavis who has a better pedigree of making All-Americans. Pro and College experience

3) DB- Corey Raymond, since he has been here our pass D has perennially been top 3 in efficiency. They are physical at the line of scrimmage.

So EXPLAIN the frick to me how we have to overcome anything? The only question mark next year is if Steele can make the proper in game adjustments. THATS IT.

Posted by goatman1419
Prairieville,LA
Member since Jan 2007
3070 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 7:45 am to
How in the hell do you "Miles and LSU can't develop players" types explain that LSU leads the nation with the most current NFL players?? The notion that we arent developing players is the most idiotic thing said on the rant period.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22745 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 7:47 am to
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The notion that we arent developing players is the most idiotic thing said on the rant period.


Its up there with where can I find LSU ringtones.
Posted by CheerWhine
A little bit of Mardi Gras
Member since Apr 2014
72406 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 7:52 am to
Agreed, D-line and LB play should take big steps up with these new hires. DB will be solid as always. Recruiting and player development defensively shouldn't be an issue.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41291 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 8:00 am to
quote:

Soft_Parade


Another person that probably had no idea Shoop even existed before the coaching search
Posted by Chitter Chatter
In and Out of Consciousness
Member since Sep 2009
4658 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 8:01 am to
I've said for years we've won many games on talent alone and not coaching/development.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41291 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 8:02 am to
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I've said for years we've won many games on talent alone and not coaching/development.


Good to know that you aren't anyone to actually take serious then.
Posted by airbornetiger
SATX
Member since Sep 2006
1416 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 8:07 am to
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Shoop would have been hired and changes would have been made to the offensive staff and special teams.


How does hiring a DC impact this--at least with regard to the offensive staff?
Posted by goatman1419
Prairieville,LA
Member since Jan 2007
3070 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 8:07 am to
True I forgot about that one lol
Posted by CalTiger53
California
Member since Oct 2011
9034 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 8:14 am to
quote:

overcome coaching/player development?

They develop players too early, that is why we lose them to NFL. If you are talking about AJ, he should not be on the field because the talent is not there.
Posted by Tigahbader
Nunya
Member since Oct 2014
767 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 8:49 am to
quote:

How in the hell do you "Miles and LSU can't develop players" types explain that LSU leads the nation with the most current NFL players?? The notion that we arent developing players is the most idiotic thing said on the rant period.


Oh really??? Well if they're "developed" so well here why don't we have more hardware to show for it.
I'd take a few less guys going to the NFL and a little bit more success while they're actually on the campus.
DB's/RBs aside very few other position players seem to be getting the coaching they need to help this team.
This post was edited on 1/15/15 at 10:10 am
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53417 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 8:51 am to
If they're not developed why are so many rookies killing it in the NFL?
We need solid WB play. Simply put.
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 8:53 am to
No, the offense has to be fixed period. You aren't going to beat other teams with similar talent with our offense.
Posted by Brbengal
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2004
1367 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 8:55 am to
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Shoop would have been hired and changes would have been made to the offensive staff


Shoops would have fired Les?
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202612 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 8:55 am to
quote:

I've said for years we've won many games on talent alone and not coaching/development.




quote:

Good to know that you aren't anyone to actually take serious then.



He makes a great point........ Of course you are to much a miles sucker and homer fan to see through this,,,,,
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
10871 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 10:03 am to
quote:

How in the hell do you "Miles and LSU can't develop players" types explain that LSU leads the nation with the most current NFL players?? The notion that we arent developing players is the most idiotic thing said on the rant period.
Where are the SEC West, SEC and National Championships then?

Explain how a team can have all those NFL caliber players and win no Championships.

Currently, LSU football has declined to 8-5 and OUT of the Top 25 polls............
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