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Why softball's run to CWS is a BIG deal for LSU long term
Posted on 5/29/12 at 7:54 am
Posted on 5/29/12 at 7:54 am
For those like me who live by football, love baseball and support basketball, but also support other LSU sports, LSU’s softball season is a very big deal imo. Here is why..
• Until now, ULL has (and still does IMO) the better program. But like Women’s hoops overtaking La Tech about 10 years ago, we are seeing a shift. LSU has more money, better facilities and may be about to pass ULL for good. LA recruits prefring LSU would be a major thing.
• As I (and others) have said all season, we have two of the best pitchers in the college game this year. Mack is a senior and Fico a junior, this was the year to do something.
• Al, UF, UGA have better program than LSU, but no one in SEC has won NC yet so we are very much in the mix to be a top SEC program going forward.
• Fico is from CT and we got her over Bama. This was a major coup and she is proven up to the hype (she was something like 132-4 in HS!)
• LSU under Girard won SEC titles in past 10 years and went to CWS in 04, but to be honest, things had seemed to plateau in past two years- we beat teams we were supposed to beat and lost to top teams.
• New Coach should be able to recruit very well now (our field is among best in country) and Fico is back. A very good core group is also back.
Even if you “don’t care about softball” we are going to have the sport and we mine as well be good (goes for other sports too). For those who follow the sport, like to hear your thoughts.
• Until now, ULL has (and still does IMO) the better program. But like Women’s hoops overtaking La Tech about 10 years ago, we are seeing a shift. LSU has more money, better facilities and may be about to pass ULL for good. LA recruits prefring LSU would be a major thing.
• As I (and others) have said all season, we have two of the best pitchers in the college game this year. Mack is a senior and Fico a junior, this was the year to do something.
• Al, UF, UGA have better program than LSU, but no one in SEC has won NC yet so we are very much in the mix to be a top SEC program going forward.
• Fico is from CT and we got her over Bama. This was a major coup and she is proven up to the hype (she was something like 132-4 in HS!)
• LSU under Girard won SEC titles in past 10 years and went to CWS in 04, but to be honest, things had seemed to plateau in past two years- we beat teams we were supposed to beat and lost to top teams.
• New Coach should be able to recruit very well now (our field is among best in country) and Fico is back. A very good core group is also back.
Even if you “don’t care about softball” we are going to have the sport and we mine as well be good (goes for other sports too). For those who follow the sport, like to hear your thoughts.
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Posted on 5/29/12 at 8:17 am to secman12
Good read...I am proud of the program. Beating AM and Missouri on the road is quality.
I hope they can win a few in OKC.
I hope they can win a few in OKC.
Posted on 5/29/12 at 8:19 am to secman12
weren't you bashing the hire recently and the team recently?
Posted on 5/29/12 at 8:21 am to Maximus
I agree with OP.
If we are going to play it, be the best at it. ul-L/La Tech/whoever else in Louisiana shouldn't be better than us in anything.
If we are going to play it, be the best at it. ul-L/La Tech/whoever else in Louisiana shouldn't be better than us in anything.
Posted on 5/29/12 at 8:22 am to secman12
Excited for the girls. Hope they do well and bring home the NC trophy.
Posted on 5/29/12 at 8:30 am to secman12
I always pull for all LSU teams, but I am going to be honest, it is softball, about 100 people actually care.
Posted on 5/29/12 at 8:43 am to secman12
quote:
LSU’s softball season is a very big deal imo. Here is why..
• Until now, ULL has (and still does IMO) the better program. But like Women’s hoops overtaking La Tech about 10 years ago, we are seeing a shift. LSU has more money, better facilities and may be about to pass ULL for good. LA recruits prefring LSU would be a major thing.
not really. in an age where budgets mean everything, i could care less about programs that run huge decifits, successful or not
women's basketball at a peak of success proved that they cannot support themselves
maybe softball could be different, but i wouldnt get my hopes up
Posted on 5/29/12 at 8:49 am to secman12
I may just be ignorant on their history, but other than their WCWS run a couple years ago, is ULL a better historical program?
Posted on 5/29/12 at 8:56 am to Springlake Tiger
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but I am going to be honest, it is softball, about 100 people actually care.
Obvious Football bandwagon fan is obvious.
Posted on 5/29/12 at 9:00 am to secman12
quote:
Even if you “don’t care about softball” we are going to have the sport and we mine as well be good (goes for other sports too)
An LSU fan pulls for LSU - in everything -even that Harry Potter game.
Posted on 5/29/12 at 9:02 am to DaphneTigah
quote:He is full of shite ...
but I am going to be honest, it is softball, about 100 people actually care.
Obvious Football bandwagon fan is obvious.
Many LSU fans care and watched and rooted for the Lady Tigers.
What they did was remarkable and I am proud of them.
LSU as a whole has nothing to lose and much to gain by positive publicity.
Posted on 5/29/12 at 9:09 am to Rouge
quote:
not really. in an age where budgets mean everything, i could care less about programs that run huge decifits, successful or not
women's basketball at a peak of success proved that they cannot support themselves
maybe softball could be different, but i wouldnt get my hopes up
In the Title IX era, as long as the athletic department can meet budget and turn a profit, the individual contributions of deficit from each program do not matter as much. Football is and always will be king. After that, baseball. But the requirement to have equality in women's scholarships will always lead to deficits in individual programs.
Posted on 5/29/12 at 9:10 am to Cadello
There's a difference between rooting for a team and caring. Caring is a pretty strong word. If the LSU softball team gets knocked out, the vast majority of fans will be like "aww that sucks" and then go about their day. A far different reaction from when one of the Big 3 loses any sort of big game.
Posted on 5/29/12 at 9:11 am to Cadello
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He is full of shite ...
Exactly
Same poster has old 2007 walmart championship T-shirt that he only breaks out during football season when we are winning.
Posted on 5/29/12 at 10:12 am to secman12
I am enjoying their run through the tournament. They have a very nice looking, good young coach. The Girls team will do well in the future. And yes, most Tiger fans support all the teams. Men and women, the money is going to be spent. Nothing wrong with winning.
Posted on 5/29/12 at 10:25 am to DaphneTigah
quote:
I may just be ignorant on their history, but other than their WCWS run a couple years ago, is ULL a better historical program?
I you go by WCWS trips than yes.. ULL has went 5 time to LSU's 3 to include this years team.. But maybe this is a turning point
Posted on 5/29/12 at 10:27 am to tigerfan88
quote:
There's a difference between rooting for a team and caring. Caring is a pretty strong word. If the LSU softball team gets knocked out, the vast majority of fans will be like "aww that sucks" and then go about their day. A far different reaction from when one of the Big 3 loses any sort of big game.
And that's the difference between being a "fan" of a sport rather than your school. I invested a lot in the university, 5 years + a lot of money. I care and want all LSU sports to succeed. They reflect our university.
Posted on 5/29/12 at 10:27 am to rickyh
weren't you bashing the hire recently and the team recently?
aahhh, no, I did express worry that they were in a mid season lull, but also given it was first year coach etc., thought it would get better, knew team had two great pitchers and that they could win pretty big, but did not think they would get to cws...
aahhh, no, I did express worry that they were in a mid season lull, but also given it was first year coach etc., thought it would get better, knew team had two great pitchers and that they could win pretty big, but did not think they would get to cws...
Posted on 5/29/12 at 10:48 am to secman12
Enjoyed watching them this weekend and have followed softball for years. Owning Louisiana and being able to attract talent like Fico could earn us a national championship before long.
I loved Mack's intensity this weekend but she has been that way since she first came to LSU
I loved Mack's intensity this weekend but she has been that way since she first came to LSU
Posted on 5/29/12 at 10:58 am to graychef
It’s not just equality in scholarships – it’s equality in facilities, administrative treatment, funding, uniforms, and everything you can think of. LSU got nailed as huge violator of Title IX back in the Joe Dean era not just for inequality in scholarships, but for refusing to pay for the volleyball team to go to the NCAA tourney on anything but a shoestring budget while the basketball team could go to Hawaii and look at volcanoes with Dale Brown. By law, you have to pour money into women’s programs if you’re doing the same with men’s (READ: football).
So, if we’re gonna pour money into the program to balance football spending, let’s at least win. As we spend more on football, we need powerful women’s programs that can justify the same level of funding as required by law.
Softball’s also pretty exciting, easy to follow, and does not conflict with football season. I’d root for an LSU tiddlywinks team, though. The games this weekend were fun as hell to watch.
So, if we’re gonna pour money into the program to balance football spending, let’s at least win. As we spend more on football, we need powerful women’s programs that can justify the same level of funding as required by law.
Softball’s also pretty exciting, easy to follow, and does not conflict with football season. I’d root for an LSU tiddlywinks team, though. The games this weekend were fun as hell to watch.
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