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Why no pulling guards this year?
Posted on 9/14/09 at 4:52 am
Posted on 9/14/09 at 4:52 am
Pulling the guard has been a staple of our run game under Crowton/Stud. Until this year - we hardly did it at all against Vandy.
Have we changed our OL philosophy to more zone read?
Or are we afraid to pull the guard without having Quinn Johnson to pick up the unblocked defensive lineman, which was often what he did?
I wonder if this is contributing to our OL struggles; also wonder if we'll see more pulling guards as the season goes on. So far it's a head scratcher.
Have we changed our OL philosophy to more zone read?
Or are we afraid to pull the guard without having Quinn Johnson to pick up the unblocked defensive lineman, which was often what he did?
I wonder if this is contributing to our OL struggles; also wonder if we'll see more pulling guards as the season goes on. So far it's a head scratcher.
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Posted on 9/14/09 at 5:00 am to NorfolkVATiger
I think we haven't really seen enough of the offense yet to say much. This game we got ~25 (>50%) more snaps on offense than the week before. I think the fullbacks are struggling, but its just lack of experience. They'll improve.
We look like the OL from the Stacey Searles era. They always started slowly and improved.
I'd rather that then to see them continually regress as the season goes along like last season.
We look like the OL from the Stacey Searles era. They always started slowly and improved.
I'd rather that then to see them continually regress as the season goes along like last season.
Posted on 9/14/09 at 5:10 am to NorfolkVATiger
We haven't been passing out of power running formations very much this year, thus teams play heavy against the run whenever we are in those situations (usually in short yardage situations), and it makes little sense to run counter plays with pulling guards.
Also, it's not easy to run counter plays in those multiple-receiver, single-back sets that we've been going to so heavily this year. We've been relying a lot on Dickson or Joseph lining up in the backfield as an extra TE to get our extra blocker for our RB, rather than running counters.
I'm not sure if you'd call that a new philosophy for our O-line, or just running different plays out of different formations (to utilize a running QB and multiple TEs), but it is true that our O-line has often found itself with wide splits and not much help in trying to block up the middle at times, which is not very conducive to pulling guards.
The one exception that I can think of are those counters where JJ (usually) fakes a handoff to a RB running against the grain, and then takes the ball himself around the edge. I'd have to look at the video again to check, but I'm willing to bet that we might have a guard pulling for the RB for those times that JJ actually hands the ball off to him.
Also, it's not easy to run counter plays in those multiple-receiver, single-back sets that we've been going to so heavily this year. We've been relying a lot on Dickson or Joseph lining up in the backfield as an extra TE to get our extra blocker for our RB, rather than running counters.
I'm not sure if you'd call that a new philosophy for our O-line, or just running different plays out of different formations (to utilize a running QB and multiple TEs), but it is true that our O-line has often found itself with wide splits and not much help in trying to block up the middle at times, which is not very conducive to pulling guards.
The one exception that I can think of are those counters where JJ (usually) fakes a handoff to a RB running against the grain, and then takes the ball himself around the edge. I'd have to look at the video again to check, but I'm willing to bet that we might have a guard pulling for the RB for those times that JJ actually hands the ball off to him.
Posted on 9/14/09 at 5:44 am to NorfolkVATiger
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Why no pulling guards this year?
It's hard to pull when you are sitting on your arse from being pushed around and down. OL has been a HUGE disappointment so far-weak link on the entire team (OK, tied with our punter).
Posted on 9/14/09 at 5:56 am to Icansee4miles
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It's hard to pull when you are sitting on your arse from being pushed around and down. OL has been a HUGE disappointment so far-weak link on the entire team (OK, tied with our punter).
Pass Blocking= C, even Ciron has looked lost at times
Run Blocking= B, A when Charles Scott is in at FB
Posted on 9/14/09 at 7:39 am to Doc Fenton
pretty sure I saw a guard pull on at least one pitch to KW around the left side, as well.
Posted on 9/14/09 at 7:53 am to epbart
Yeah, that would make sense.
I think we're only seeing pulling guards whenever the QB is put in play as a potential runner.
I think we're only seeing pulling guards whenever the QB is put in play as a potential runner.
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