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why no counters, draws, etc.?
Posted on 9/6/16 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 9/6/16 at 1:59 pm
I counted Wisconsin ran 5 counters in a row at one point....Bama runs tons of them. It's not being a running team that bothers the shite out of me it's the lack of ingenuity in the running game itself. We don't have to be the 88 miami dolphins for god sake....just try and fool em a little....use a little thought in the gameplan?
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Posted on 9/6/16 at 1:59 pm to setinways12
Because Les
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:03 pm to setinways12
We ran counters. I'm not going to look for evidence, but I was at the stadium and it appeared to me that we did.
Why no draws? The answer is fairly obvious. The purpose of a draw is to trick a defense that's worried about the pass. If you were playing defense against LSU would you be worried about the pass? Neither was Wisconsin.
The real answer to the question, "Why didn't we run XXX?" is we only ran about 50 plays. Hell, it's hard to run much of anything when you chop off 30% of the plays.
Why no draws? The answer is fairly obvious. The purpose of a draw is to trick a defense that's worried about the pass. If you were playing defense against LSU would you be worried about the pass? Neither was Wisconsin.
The real answer to the question, "Why didn't we run XXX?" is we only ran about 50 plays. Hell, it's hard to run much of anything when you chop off 30% of the plays.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:04 pm to setinways12
LSU ran them well under Dinardo and Saban
Posted on 9/6/16 at 3:07 pm to Penrod
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We ran counters. I'm not going to look for evidence, but I was at the stadium and it appeared to me that we did.
We didn't run any counters...all we ran was dive's and iso's.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 3:09 pm to setinways12
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We didn't run any counters...all we ran was dive's and iso's.
bullshite Fournette broke off one of his longest runs on a counter
Posted on 9/6/16 at 3:10 pm to setinways12
Toss Dive
Posted on 9/6/16 at 3:11 pm to ironsides
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bullshite Fournette broke off one of his longest runs on a counter
I thought I saw counter action a couple of times, but like I said, I was at the game, and you miss a lot when you're not watching the telecast.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 3:12 pm to Penrod
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Why no draws?
Too painful. Lesticles has been surgically castrated. Gauze but no draws.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 3:14 pm to BigBrod81
Because those plays take time to develop, and our line couldn't block for shite.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 3:16 pm to ironsides
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Bull shite Fournette broke off one of his longest runs on a counter
wrong....show me.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 3:19 pm to setinways12
We ran inside zone, outside zone, power and belly. Belly was the only thing new that I noticed. Anyone who says we ran counter doesn't know what they are talking about.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 3:20 pm to setinways12
You can't run counters if your pulling guard was in a walking boot 24 hours prior to the game (Clapp). His play showed that he should have sat out. Boutte sure as hell doesn't have the foot speed to pull around.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 3:20 pm to sjmabry
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Because those plays take time to develop, and our line couldn't block for shite.
Pretty much. What got lost in the offensive line's performance is that Moore was blowing fools up. It was all for not though because someone else would blow an assignment allowing a defender to hit Fournette almost immediately.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 3:21 pm to sjmabry
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You can't run counters if your pulling guard was in a walking boot 24 hours prior to the game (Clapp).
But we still ran power
Posted on 9/6/16 at 3:21 pm to setinways12
mainly see HB dives, toss dives and HB leads.
hardly any counter leads, counter traps or counter treys. i did not see any of that either unless i missed it. thing is with the I formation we should be running these you would think
hardly any counter leads, counter traps or counter treys. i did not see any of that either unless i missed it. thing is with the I formation we should be running these you would think
Posted on 9/6/16 at 3:22 pm to setinways12
another mystery is why do we even call screen passes.
they are used to mitigate the pass rush.
who pass rushes LSU? they may run blitz and accidentally get a pass rush.
they are used to mitigate the pass rush.
who pass rushes LSU? they may run blitz and accidentally get a pass rush.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 3:23 pm to camplsu
quote:You talking about 4th and 1 play when Clapp didn't make it to his defender? If not, he hurt us more in that game than he helped.
But we still ran power
Posted on 9/6/16 at 3:23 pm to ironsides
fournettes long run was bounced outside on an inside zone. we didn't pull anyone
Posted on 9/6/16 at 3:25 pm to sjmabry
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You talking about 4th and 1 play when Clapp didn't make it to his defender?
Exactly. What everyone around here refers to "Toss dive" is actually LSU's version of power. We ran it two or three times if I remember correctly. It was more than once but a lot less than normal.
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