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re: Why doesn't Romero start at catcher?

Posted on 4/17/16 at 4:09 pm to
Posted by Kim Jong Ir
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/17/16 at 4:09 pm to
quote:

I am to believe that a coach doesn't put in the players who are actually better than the ones playing?


There is no way that you will ever believe that. Coach and the Pope....
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84942 posts
Posted on 4/17/16 at 4:22 pm to
Are you trying to defend the coach by assuming that pap practices better than Romero? Is that what you're grasping to?
Posted by OGtigerfan73
Member since Feb 2015
709 posts
Posted on 4/17/16 at 4:24 pm to
If by every year you mean 1/2 of a season with Tyler moore then sure.i can honestly think of more examples of guys who started slow this board wanted benched but coach stuck with them and it paid off
This post was edited on 4/17/16 at 4:26 pm
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61745 posts
Posted on 4/17/16 at 4:27 pm to
I understand not jumping to conclusions after a small sample size. Those asking for more Romero after the first weekend we a little early. But we have seen Pap for two seasons now. He's hitting better this season than last and he's still at .230. After the Auburn series I think we had all seen enough from Romero to know that he needs to be in the lineup, Paul Mainieir not included in "all".

Can't you watch the games with your own eyes and come to a few conclusions? You don't have to be at practice to see what Romero has done every time he was given an opportunity.
Posted by DrD
Houston
Member since Jan 2010
2609 posts
Posted on 4/17/16 at 4:37 pm to
Ok Coach we're on your side. Great lineup today! LOL
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 4/17/16 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

Are you trying to defend the coach by assuming that pap practices better than Romero? Is that what you're grasping to?




What I am grasping at is that the LSU coaches know more about their teams than the Greek chorus of complainers that show up for every game, every sport spouting off a constant stream of criticism.

What I am grasping at is the man that hired to coach the team and who has won a national championship knows better how to run it than some second rate rag arm relief pitcher/coach wannabee does.

What I am grasping at is the simple fact is that if all of you chronic whiners actually knew anything about the coaching profession you would be doing it.

Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35866 posts
Posted on 4/17/16 at 4:43 pm to
Romero struggled mightily against the better pitchers, but he can rake against average to below average stuff.

I think that's why he was held out until today.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64461 posts
Posted on 4/17/16 at 4:45 pm to
quote:



What I am grasping at is that the LSU coaches know more about their teams than the Greek chorus of complainers that show up for every game, every sport spouting off a constant stream of criticism.

What I am grasping at is the man that hired to coach the team and who has won a national championship knows better how to run it than some second rate rag arm relief pitcher/coach wannabee does.

What I am grasping at is the simple fact is that if all of you chronic whiners actually knew anything about the coaching profession you would be doing it.


What about coaches that are fired for being bad coaches by ADs who have never coached themselves? Are ADs just out of line? I mean what do they know right?
This post was edited on 4/17/16 at 4:46 pm
Posted by Kim Jong Ir
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
52535 posts
Posted on 4/17/16 at 4:54 pm to
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Gray Tiger


I am sure you are a nice dude IRL, but I don't understand why you think fans can't question some decisions that coaches make without being negatiger whiners. Isn't that part of being a fan? For example, Skip was unquestionably the greatest, but I always questioned it when he would put McClure in LF.

In this instance, it is my opinion that Romero should get more PT at catcher. I base that on watching the games and looking at the stats. That doesn't make me a whiner coach wannabe, it makes me a fan with an opinion.
This post was edited on 4/17/16 at 5:01 pm
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14473 posts
Posted on 4/17/16 at 4:54 pm to
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Romero struggled mightily against the better pitchers, but he can rake against average to below average stuff.

I think that's why he was held out until today.


I don't think his average is based on quality of arms. I think he just struggles when has to DH vs when he can stay warm while catching. In SEC play Romero is 1-9 (.111) as DH and 8-22 (.364) as Catcher.

On the season he is .179 vs .413 as DH vs Catcher.
Posted by Kim Jong Ir
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
52535 posts
Posted on 4/17/16 at 4:56 pm to
quote:

Romero struggled mightily against the better pitchers, but he can rake against average to below average stuff.

I think that's why he was held out until today.




How many hits did Pap have in the first 2 games?

Anybody have the SEC only batting stats on Pap vs Romero?
This post was edited on 4/17/16 at 4:57 pm
Posted by NotRight37
Nashville, TN
Member since Jul 2014
5843 posts
Posted on 4/17/16 at 4:57 pm to
Stats are misleading to a point, but just to a point. I think we have passed it with this comparison. Pap will take more walks than Romero, but is batting around .100 points less. Power and slugging pct not remotely close and Romero will get more intentional walks to cut into Paps walks. At this point in the season, Romero should be starting...performance on the field is what counts. Is Pap that much better as a catcher...I haven't seen it with my eyes. Is he helping Lange, well I don't see that either. To say Lange is struggling is a compliment to him. Yes, he has the best stuff on the staff with ease, but if you cannot throw strikes with at least two pitches, you will struggle as Lange has all year. Romero should start at catcher...plain and simple.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164014 posts
Posted on 4/17/16 at 5:06 pm to
The same thing happened with Fraley his freshman season for what it's worth. He'd mash but Mainieri wouldn't play him. Calling for Fraley is one of the Rant's great baseball accomplishments.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 4/17/16 at 5:13 pm to
quote:

What about coaches that are fired for being bad coaches by ADs who have never coached themselves? Are ADs just out of line? I mean what do they know right?


You are equating university AD's to the meatballs on this board? Seriously? But even then the AD would have greater insight as to what is going on on the athletic and the team in question than the rantards.

Really man I hope you didn't hurt yourself with that stretch.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14473 posts
Posted on 4/17/16 at 5:13 pm to
Paps in batting .172 (5-29) against SEC pitchers.
Romero is .290 (9-31) in SEC play.


eta: I still want Papierski catching for Lange. The pitchers seem to be more aggressive with Papierski behind the plate.

But I think Romero should start every Sunday and all weekday games without a doubt.
This post was edited on 4/17/16 at 5:17 pm
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 4/17/16 at 5:22 pm to
Your problem is that you assume any criticism from the fans is misplaced because there is no way that any fan knows as much as the coach. And in a lot of instances on this board, that is probably correct. But this isn't one of those instances. Its obvious to anyone that has watched this team this year that Romero is more valuable to this team than Pap. After this weekend, it should be pretty clear that our best lineup is with Romero at C and Bryce at DH.
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
4438 posts
Posted on 4/17/16 at 5:23 pm to
Romero's average showed to be below .300 today on tv. There is some serious exaggeration of the difference between the two averages.

That being said, the main reason Romero played today was that wind blowing out to left today. CPM thought Romero could put one up there and get it out. Coach was right today.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35866 posts
Posted on 4/17/16 at 5:24 pm to
That's a possibility

Maybe he hits better as a player not as a DH
This post was edited on 4/17/16 at 5:38 pm
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 4/17/16 at 5:26 pm to
quote:

I am sure you are a nice dude IRL, but I don't understand why you think fans can't question some decisions that coaches make without being negatiger whiners. Isn't that part of being a fan? For example, Skip was unquestionably the greatest, but I always questioned it when he would put McClure in LF.




Is constantly complaining about some facet of each and every game; every sport just "being a fan"? Some fandom. Even a victory doesn't put a damper on the harping.
This is a good thing? Where does this unending stream of criticism have a positive angle to it?





Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84942 posts
Posted on 4/17/16 at 5:27 pm to
Yes. Romero doesn't play when the wind blows in. He suddenly becomes a terrible hitter. It's his kryptonite.
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