re: Why did the clock keep running after our WR went OOB on final drive?

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I'm not a rule expert, but I've never seen it called that way before. Not even once.

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It is literally called this way every game all of the time. It baffles me how so many aren't aware of this.

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Fournette could get dragged behind a truck in the parking lot and the refs would lose the whistles but Dural struggles to get out of bounds and they blow the play dead real quick

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It was not blown dead until he went out of bounds. Anytime a player goes out of bounds a judgment call is made as to whether he had forward progress or not and a signal is made to either run the clock or not. The right call was made.

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No. When a player is attempting to get out of bounds and gets out, the clock stops.

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you don't know what you're taking about but ok.

That game felt like a setup from go. The hold on Pocic? please.


Lots of short spots, killer flags when they didn't need to be called and the clock.

It doesn't matter but frick Auburn and their bs buying ref shite. It's a joke when LSU goes there to play

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You have to be moving forwards. If you're moving sideways the clock is supposed to run. There are several examples of this every Saturday and Sunday. How much football do you watch?

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Where is that in the following from the 2016/2017 rules?

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Late in the second or fourth quarter, ball carrier A37 goes out of bounds. When the game clock is stopped it reads (a) 2:00, or (b) 1:59.

RULING: (a) The game clock starts on the referee’s signal when the ball is ready for play. (b) The game clock starts on the snap.

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I underlined the applicable for you.

And here's some more. Where in any of this do they leave it to a judgment call?

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Starts on the Snap. For each of the following, the game clock is stopped on an official’s signal. If the next play begins with a snap, the game clock will start on the snap:
1. Touchback
2. With fewer than two minutes remaining in a half a Team A ball carrier, fumble or backward pass is ruled out of bounds. (Exception: After a Team A forward fumble, the clock starts on the referee’s signal.)
3. Team B is awarded a first down and will next snap the ball (A.R.
3-3-2-V).
4. A forward pass is ruled incomplete.
5. A team is granted a charged timeout.
6. The ball becomes illegal.
7. Violation of a rule for mandatory equipment (Rule 1-4-4) or illegal
equipment (Rule 1-4-7).
8. A legal kick down ends. (A.R.3-3-2-VI)
9. A return kick is made.
10. A scrimmage kick is made beyond the neutral zone.
11. Team A commits a delay-of-game foul while in a scrimmage-kick
formation.
12. A period ends.

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Undermined the important stuff for you again. Bottom line is, the incorrect call was made.

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I'm at the dr so I can't exactly quote the rulebook right now

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I quoted it for you. You're wrong.

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But my entire life the ref makes a judgement on whether or not you went out of bounds with forward progress

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No.

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If you google " forward progress out of bounds" there are dozens of examples, NFL and college, for the last 25 years where people are asking why the clock stopped and experts explaining this rule and how the correct call is just as I say.

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Our Google's are different then, because that's not what I'm seeing. Regardless, the rule book is all that matters.

Dural and Dupre both made pretty much the same error that cost us a lot of time.

Dural turned up field first, but did not know the db was right there and then it was a quick forward progress call, but it could have been easily avoided if he would have just immediately went out of bounds when he caught it, no reason to turn up field at that point, time was more important than the yard or two.. it was 1st down.

Dupre did the exact same thing with 24 seconds left, he caught the ball, turned up field and got tackled in bounds, terrible choice, he had no chance to score or get first down. (Dupre also cost us about 20 seconds lining up on the wrong side a couple of plays before that)

Getting out of bounds late in the game, is obviously something that was not taught properly, hopefully that will change.

This. It doesn't matter which Alabama school we play, we tend to get hosed by the officials. In fact, it seems we actually get screwed more at Auburn than at Bama. It's hard to find a screw job as blatant as "refgate 06." Maybe it's because Bama is usually good enough to beat us on their own, or with less obvious cheating than Auburn requires.

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Ball Declared Dead
ARTICLE 3. A live ball becomes dead and an official shall sound his
whistle or declare it dead:
a. When it goes out of bounds other than a kick that scores a field goal after
touching the uprights or crossbar; when a ball carrier is out of bounds;
or when a ball carrier is so held that his forward progress is stopped.
When in question, the ball is dead (A.R. 4-2-1-II).

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I believe it's an interpretation of this rule, and it's been called this way for years. If forward progress is stopped in bounds the ball is dead. There is no out of bounds. That's why the official winds his arms, to let the clock operator know. Like I said, if something has changed this year than so be it. But you act like you've never seen it or heard of the concept when it's been this way in NFL and CFL for a lifetime. And since your google doesn't work, let me help you:

Why did clock keep moving when we ran out of bounds?

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I know there was one time forward progress was stopped at the side line, the player was then ran out of bounds. The clock should never stop in this situation.

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The official kept winding the clock as if the players progress had been stopped.

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The officials ruled that the forward progress was stopped inbounds and then the player went out of bounds.

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Did the refs cost the Bills an extra play at the end of 'Monday Night Football'?

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Most of the time, a player going out of bounds stops the clock. In fact, the clock operator actually did temporarily stop the clock, as you can see by the fact that it stops counting down. But the referee over the play eventually ran in windmilling his arm, restarting the clock and essentially ending the game. Why? Apparently, the ref felt that Watkins had made forward progress in the field of play.

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Watkins' furthest point of progress towards the end zone was inbounds. Therefore, the referee ruled that spot as the place where the play was dead, and if the spot where the play was dead was inbounds, then the clock continues running.

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Here's the rule on that: The Forward Progress of a runner or airborne receiver is the point at which his advance toward his opponent's goal ends and is the spot at which the ball is declared dead by rule, irrespective of the runner or receiver being pushed or carried backward by an opponent.

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Officiating: Forward Progress vs. Out of Bounds

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Brandon Pettigrew catches the ball and runs forward for a yard before being hit by Chris Cook backward by a yard and out of bounds. The wing official moves up to the spot where progress ended, and kills the clock. Immediately thereafter, Leslie Frazier is seen running up and down the sidelines giving a "run the clock" signal and shouting at the officials. Frazier was correct. Pettigrew's forward progress ended at the Detroit 44-yard line. Subsequent force by Cook knocked him backward and out of bounds. By spotting the ball at the 44-yard line and killing the clock, the official gave the Lions the benefit of forward progress (the favorable spot) without the drawback (a running clock after a dead ball in-bounds) and vice-versa for the out-of-bounds spot

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this simple but incorrect decision could have spelled the difference between a win and a loss in a close game at the buzzer

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Clock Run/Stop rules

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The one thing I have figured out is that if forward progress is stopped by a defender in the field of play then clock continues to run if runner is pushed out of bounds.

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