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re: Why did Guice get so many carries late against A&M?
Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:14 am to Tiger Voodoo
Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:14 am to Tiger Voodoo
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Why did Guice get so many carries late against A&M?
Why was Matt Mauck doing running the ball late in 4th quarter against Florida back in 2002 on the play that knocked him out for the year with an ankle injury.
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:14 am to Topwater Trout
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so which back is better...
157 carries 8yd avg
129 carries 6.5yd avg
I have never said anything about which back I think is better.
But when talking about which game is a more impressive performance and deserving of the single game rushing record in my opinion, I'll take LF's OM game over Guice's A&M game
Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:18 am to Antonio Moss
Are you seriously comparing this:
to this???:
I've already said I have no problem whatsoever with LF being rested in the OM game. He should have been. My question is why the different treatment of Guice in the A&M game?
Uh, no. They played Fournette until the game was out of reach. He just happened to break the record along the way.
On the last offensive play of a game we were winning by 21.
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10:00 left in the game when we were up 10
to this???:
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up 21 with 3 minutes left
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Why weren't you concerned about protecting his health then?
I've already said I have no problem whatsoever with LF being rested in the OM game. He should have been. My question is why the different treatment of Guice in the A&M game?
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Again, they played Fournette until be broke the record.
Uh, no. They played Fournette until the game was out of reach. He just happened to break the record along the way.
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They played Guice until he broke the record.
On the last offensive play of a game we were winning by 21.
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They were treated the exact same.
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 10:29 am
Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:22 am to pellietigersaint
Guice had been made the scapegoat the week before - right or wrong. He did exactly what we want: he responded. And he was rewarded.
Players play.
Players play.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:23 am to Topwater Trout
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so which back is better...
157 carries 8yd avg
129 carries 6.5yd avg
The one game that #7 was truly healthy this year was Ole Miss... The bulk of Guice's carries this season were when coach O took over and started to spread the defenses out. A healthy #7 in the new offense wins the heisman. A healthy Guice is GREAT. A healthy Fournette is GREATEST Tiger RB ever.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:28 am to Tiger Voodoo
If Guice was not in the game, would you be asking why he wasn't given a chance to break the record?
He earned it.
He earned it.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:31 am to Dudebro2
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I was thinking the same thing. Also take into account that LF didn't even travel to the game at A&M when suspended Arden Key was on the sidelines. Something just seems a little odd about that game and the fact that LF wasn't on the sidelines with Key was and they gave Guice so many carries risking him getting hurt. It just feels like there is something more to this but we will probably never know.
I'll throw another log on the fire…
When Les was stinking up the offensive effort against Auburn, Fournette came off the field chewing out Miles. I don't know what was said, but I bet it was something like "you're gonna get me killed" or "call better plays you unimaginative frickup" (Total and complete speculation, and nowhere near accurate.)
Fournette is great, but I think there could have possibly been a chemistry issue.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:32 am to Tiger Voodoo
Just maybe they were protecting a player who although he claimed to be 100% we all know he was playing on a bad ankle sprain. Your looking for conspiracies where aren't any.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:32 am to Tiger Voodoo
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It just seems like there is something more to that story.
O was gunning for the HC job.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:33 am to roygu
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If Guice was not in the game, would you be asking why he wasn't given a chance to break the record?
No.
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He earned it.
This thread is littered with people that think the record shouldn't play into a coach's decision on who gets the carries. I happen to agree with them. Of course based on the down votes they clearly can't read well enough to see that.
The health of our team and players should be the paramount concern at all times.
I'm just curious why getting the record was placed above Guice's health at the end of a blow out.
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 10:36 am
Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:36 am to Tiger Voodoo
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But when talking about which game is a more impressive performance and deserving of the single game rushing record in my opinion, I'll take LF's OM game over Guice's A&M game
I am a huge LF fan but on his long td runs the blocking was incredible...wasn't much talent needed to hit those holes
Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:39 am to Ponchy Tiger
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Just maybe they were protecting a player who although he claimed to be 100% we all know he was playing on a bad ankle sprain. Your looking for conspiracies where aren't any.
I guess my OP doesn't make it clear enough that I'm not complaining that LF was taken out in the OM game. It was the right call to sit him when we did.
I talked about what he could have done with more carries to illustrate that setting the record was not the deciding factor there, while it clearly was in the A&M game.
Not sure why that is so hard to understand. The thread title is why did Guice get so many carries, not why didn't LF get more against OM
If Guice got rolled up on in a pile at the end of the A&M game this board would have melted down, and rightfully so.
Why are ok with exposing our now #1 back to that type of risk in a blow out?
All I'm asking.
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 11:00 am
Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:39 am to Tiger Voodoo
I don't think it had anything to do with rewarding the player.
Fournette against Ole Miss, we had pulled ahead and put them away. Guice was killing the clock acceptably, decent yards.
Guice against A&M- while I thought it was too many carries and risked an injury, I understood it. The last couple were for the record, but he got over 30 carries because A&M had suddenly woke up on offense. They were scoring on 1 minute, 4 play drives, and had got within 2 scores at one point.
You don't run the clock out then, you keep scoring. Guice was the clear advantage at RB, Williams was falling over linemen.
Fournette against Ole Miss, we had pulled ahead and put them away. Guice was killing the clock acceptably, decent yards.
Guice against A&M- while I thought it was too many carries and risked an injury, I understood it. The last couple were for the record, but he got over 30 carries because A&M had suddenly woke up on offense. They were scoring on 1 minute, 4 play drives, and had got within 2 scores at one point.
You don't run the clock out then, you keep scoring. Guice was the clear advantage at RB, Williams was falling over linemen.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:41 am to dukke v
I'm not mad at Coach O for getting Guice the record. The person to be mad at is Miles. With a competent coach, Fournette could have put the record out of reach.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:01 am to ATLTiger
How much clearer can you make it? As O has stated keep the pedal to the metal, the aggies kept coming and had we gone into a "miles" mode of run out the clock, punt etc. we would have been behind later in the 4th qtr. So we went with what was working, Guice was gashing the "chief's" defense all night. We kept scoring, and had to in order to secure victory. I wasn't comfortable with our defense getting stops until the final horn blew.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:09 am to tzimme4
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That's because Guice is the best RB on the team. I said that going into the season.
And we have a winner!
Wait until draft day and see where the great LF gets drafted.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:10 am to Tiger Voodoo
Fournette was coming off an injury and will not be back next year.
Guice was blamed for the Florida loss. Since he is coming back next year, this was a confidence builder. It worked!
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But just a month later, Guice was given over 35 carries, including nearly a dozen carries on the last two drives when the game was a rout, as he chipped away with 3 yard carries until he finally broke the record by a single yard.
My question is, why???
Guice was blamed for the Florida loss. Since he is coming back next year, this was a confidence builder. It worked!
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:10 am to Antonio Moss
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Fournette broke the record with 10:00 left in the game when we were up 10 and going in to score.
He broke the record with 11:00 to play in the 3rd quarter, on 8 carries.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:17 am to Topwater Trout
quote:This, plus he's been injured all year. Why keep running him with a bum ankle when it's meaningless?
We were trying to protect a guy that will be a top 5-10 pick...how fricking stupid right?
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:18 am to Tiger Voodoo
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Why did Guice get so many carries late against A&M?
Becuase we had not totally secured victory yet.
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