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Why can't we develop/recruit a stud qb ?

Posted on 10/21/12 at 8:19 am
Posted by NatchitochesLSU ULM
Austin, Texas
Member since Dec 2006
258 posts
Posted on 10/21/12 at 8:19 am
Freakin ULM and Tech have gunslingers and we have a bronze statue. I'm happy everytime we win, however it is painful to watch our QB play. Anyone have a good explanation?
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53768 posts
Posted on 10/21/12 at 8:23 am to
Easy now...Zack is a great arm talent and he is tall

I am perplexed he keeps getting balls knocked down, I have to think this on the OL...

Our WRs are not as fast I thought, nor as physcial...that's a big problem

coming out of spring, Mett's big plus was his accuracy on the deep ball, well, we have yet to really see that consistently.

Odell has to bring those in...He has had the sophomore jinx.

I like Zack...people need to realize this offense is about scheme, which has been scouted and well defended.. LSU must make changes... Like, put 3 or 4 WR's on the feild at the same time, not 2, with pop warner routes.
Posted by theantiquetiger
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19187 posts
Posted on 10/21/12 at 8:23 am to
Because LSU and CLM are known as running teams, always have, always will. LSU throws the ball about 20 times a game.
Posted by Ignignokt
Member since Dec 2005
3377 posts
Posted on 10/21/12 at 8:25 am to
The WR have been less than stellar. Not getting good separation and dropped passes haven't helped.
Posted by Guy Sajer FS
Faubourg Delachaise
Member since Dec 2011
282 posts
Posted on 10/21/12 at 8:26 am to
Yeah, it's not like LSU has ever had the #1 qb taken in the draft recently. Oh, wait...
Posted by Papa Tigah
TIGER ISLAND, LA
Member since Sep 2007
18379 posts
Posted on 10/21/12 at 8:34 am to
quote:

put 3 or 4 WR's on the feild at the same time
But ca we protect him with a 4 wide set?
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
20213 posts
Posted on 10/21/12 at 8:41 am to
Someone like Zach Lee or Gunner Kiel would fit nicely in our offense.
Posted by hondo
Member since Oct 2006
1023 posts
Posted on 10/21/12 at 8:50 am to
If you were a 5 star high school qb, why in the world would you come to LSU.?? The offense will never allow you to develop . Look at other games each weekend and see how they sling it around.
It all goes back to Michigan football.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 10/21/12 at 8:53 am to
Yeah like aTm? They sling it around a lot which is why they are undefeated.

Posted by northLAgoomba
The Cooper Road, Ratchet City, LA
Member since Nov 2009
3787 posts
Posted on 10/21/12 at 8:55 am to
quote:

Yeah, it's not like LSU has ever had the #1 qb taken in the draft recently. Oh, wait...
Yea, it's not like Jimbo Fisher had anything to do with the development of Jamarcus Russell and Matt Flynn. Oh, wait . . .
Posted by BigShotBobert
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jul 2010
948 posts
Posted on 10/21/12 at 8:56 am to
Our offense is so simplified right now. At this point I'm not sure if its bc of the o line or if its miles being miles. What I do know is that it's not all on Mett. We run the same few passing plays over and over. These plays aren't even designed to get a lot of separation. Most are simple middle school routes. Though I will say, we were open on a deep ball 4 or 5 times yesterday. One went for 6, one was dropped but got a PI. And Mett missed the rest. I like seeing us take some shots like we did yesterday. I think if we continue that, the accuracy will come.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 10/21/12 at 8:58 am to
quote:

Why can't we develop/recruit a stud qb


This is really my biggest issue with Miles. He is a hell of a coach (underrated because of Saban in my opinion). He can recruit with the best. In addition he can spot unheralded talent and help them become stars (TM7, Mo Claiborne), he sees guys like Barksdale and Copeland and moves them from defense to critical parts of the offense and they work.

Why he can't find a QB is beyond incredible, really.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155371 posts
Posted on 10/21/12 at 9:00 am to
coaching develops talent.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93688 posts
Posted on 10/21/12 at 9:02 am to
quote:

If you were a 5 star high school qb, why in the world would you come to LSU.?? The offense will never allow you to develop . Look at other games each weekend and see how they sling it around.
It all goes back to Michigan football.


Posted by Barry Badrinath
MISS'IPPI
Member since Mar 2008
6294 posts
Posted on 10/21/12 at 9:05 am to
Miles' offense is predicated on running the football and not turning the ball over. He wants to let the other team do that.

I believe Mett could be really good, but his stats look horrible and he looks erratic out there. However, one good thing he hasn't done a lot of is turn the ball over. If you watch him play, he's scared to death of turning the ball over instead of making plays. I believe he's coached to not turn the ball over at all costs.

All these people saying he sucks are dumb as dirt and won't put the blame on the correct person. Lee, jj, and now Mett play scared. They take sacks, they are not accurate, but they don't turn the ball over that much.
When Lee turned the ball over two times in a row against Bama, he lost his starting job for good. Miles hates turnovers.

He hates turnovers from his QB more than his want for his QB to throw TDs.

Like billy bean said, "he hates losing more than he wants to win"
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 10/21/12 at 9:05 am to
quote:

The offense will never allow you to develop


I don't know if this is true. In 05, 06, and 07 we were incredibly balanced on offense with 2 different OC. But we had 2 very good college QBs.

Since then we have had nothing at QB. I really don't think the system is the problem anymore. The problem is lack of SEC level talent at QB. The scheme in place is designed to minimize the effect of bad QBs. Its painful to watch, but I think Miles does it for this reason.

Still can't figure out why Miles can't recruit a good QB
Posted by cajunjj
Madison, AL
Member since May 2008
7427 posts
Posted on 10/21/12 at 9:08 am to
The Chief never gets much credit as a defense coach, but for him we probably would have lost 4 games. Why? Because he can make adjustments on the run. Its a shame we don't have any one to coach the offense!! It never changes we call the same plays week after week!
Posted by coondaddy21
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
3222 posts
Posted on 10/21/12 at 9:12 am to
IMO, LSU can be just like Alabama's offense, Balanced!! The play calling has little to be desired!! With such a strong running attack, we should be using more play action, screen plays and crossing routes. All these things will help the WR's get off the ball and get open.
Posted by horndog
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Member since Apr 2007
11654 posts
Posted on 10/21/12 at 9:13 am to
WTF are u saying?
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22495 posts
Posted on 10/21/12 at 9:15 am to
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Anyone have a good explanation?
*CLM
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