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Why are the standards now lowered?
Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:26 pm
Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:26 pm
Before it was all 9 or 10 win season and now we have many people saying 7 or 8 win season would be a successful season.
Wasn't the point of this hire to elevate where we were before. Now we are heading backwards and now people are "content"
If we can't scratch 9 wins in one of the most down years in the entire conference, there is a major major problem.
Wasn't the point of this hire to elevate where we were before. Now we are heading backwards and now people are "content"
If we can't scratch 9 wins in one of the most down years in the entire conference, there is a major major problem.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:27 pm to Tigerbait357
The standards for O are lower because he fell upward into a job he didn't deserve and pretty much everyone realizes that. He's a terrible HC, and if some deity would so bless us with his firing in the next 18 months we will be better for it.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:44 pm to Tigerbait357
Tale of two Tigers. Title for a Book for anyone that wants to write the Rise and Fall of the LSU Tigers from 2000-2017
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 11:45 pm
Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:48 pm to Tigerbait357
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Wasn't the point of this hire to elevate where we were before.
I can't believe anyone really expected this.
I wasn't expecting a NC contender. I don't think there even could be until Saban finally retires. But I expected a fun team with an energetic offense being competitive. Of course I didn't realize we had no depth in the trenches.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:51 pm to Tigerbait357
This is what happens when you settle and make excuses
Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:51 pm to Tigerbait357
I'll tell you why. I know because I already lived through it. At the end of the 70's we got rid of Charlie Mac. Charlie was Les Miles without the championships and with five more years of 7-4 ball. He lasted so long because he had "friends" among the rich boosters. These are guys who are rich - usually not self-made - good old boys.
The Friends were finally overcome, and for one shining moment competence ruled LSU football. We hired the Nick Saban of the time, Bo Rein. Then the poor SOB died in a plane crash. The trouble for LSU was that the smart people had exhausted their power, and the Friends took over and went out and hired an "LSU man", Jerry Stovall. Stovall was a good fellow, and an LSU legend, but had no coaching bona fides. He failed.
The smart set got control again in the person of Bob Brodhead, AD. He hired NFL defensive genius Arnsparger, who made LSU into an elite power. Brodhead made virtually every LSU team into an elite power, until he was caught wiretapping an ncaa investigation - funny guy, that Brodhead
Again, the Friends took control, and when Arnsparger moved on they hired his defensive assistant Archer. He was that era's Muschamp. He had one great season, but then the wheels came off because he simply wasn't a program manager. Enter the 90s.
LSU foolishly hired Joe Dean as AD, and he went on an idiot hiring spree unmatched in life or lore until LSU's recent hire. The 90's were a period of mediocrity and worse.
Once again a great leader emerged to take control from the Friends. Chancellor (not Edited) Mark Emmert conducted a diligent search and personally made the call for Saban. He left enough professionalism in place to result in a very good hire for Saban's replacement, but after about eight years Les Miles wore out.
The standard was high at LSU so we did not let Miles linger as we did Charlie Mac. The trouble is that the Friends had control again because of a weakling in the AD position.
I predict dark years ahead as we replace one bad hire with another. We are overdue for an affirmative action hire in football. Those rarely work. It's hard enough to hire a good HC if you have all coaches as candidates. If you limit it by race, or LSU affiliation, it's nearly impossible. Look for two more miserable years with O, three with Frank Wilson, then maybe a decent coach.
The Friends were finally overcome, and for one shining moment competence ruled LSU football. We hired the Nick Saban of the time, Bo Rein. Then the poor SOB died in a plane crash. The trouble for LSU was that the smart people had exhausted their power, and the Friends took over and went out and hired an "LSU man", Jerry Stovall. Stovall was a good fellow, and an LSU legend, but had no coaching bona fides. He failed.
The smart set got control again in the person of Bob Brodhead, AD. He hired NFL defensive genius Arnsparger, who made LSU into an elite power. Brodhead made virtually every LSU team into an elite power, until he was caught wiretapping an ncaa investigation - funny guy, that Brodhead
Again, the Friends took control, and when Arnsparger moved on they hired his defensive assistant Archer. He was that era's Muschamp. He had one great season, but then the wheels came off because he simply wasn't a program manager. Enter the 90s.
LSU foolishly hired Joe Dean as AD, and he went on an idiot hiring spree unmatched in life or lore until LSU's recent hire. The 90's were a period of mediocrity and worse.
Once again a great leader emerged to take control from the Friends. Chancellor (not Edited) Mark Emmert conducted a diligent search and personally made the call for Saban. He left enough professionalism in place to result in a very good hire for Saban's replacement, but after about eight years Les Miles wore out.
The standard was high at LSU so we did not let Miles linger as we did Charlie Mac. The trouble is that the Friends had control again because of a weakling in the AD position.
I predict dark years ahead as we replace one bad hire with another. We are overdue for an affirmative action hire in football. Those rarely work. It's hard enough to hire a good HC if you have all coaches as candidates. If you limit it by race, or LSU affiliation, it's nearly impossible. Look for two more miserable years with O, three with Frank Wilson, then maybe a decent coach.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 7:03 am
Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:53 pm to beauchristopher
The best one I hear all the time. We are not Bama. ugh We use to be the bama of the conference. perfect example of standards being lowered. The next tier of excuses will lead LSU back to the bottom 1/4 of the conference.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:55 pm to Tigerbait357
Good lord this place is just full of pussies now.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:58 pm to Penrod
I vote for No More Joe's for AD.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 12:17 am to Tigerbait357
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Why are the standards now lowered?
Because we lost to Mississippi State by 30 FREAKING POINTS! 30 POINTS! We use to compete with Alabama and now we're getting blown out by Moo State!
Posted on 9/19/17 at 12:31 am to sta4ever
I don't think the Cookie Monster Club is assessing the gravity of the situation. There is nothing moralizing about losing to State 37-7.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 12:56 am to Tigerbait357
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If we can't scratch 9 wins in one of the most down years in the entire conference, there is a major major problem
What exactly have you seen over the past few years that gives you a feeling that LSU football is a 10 win team? Recruiting? Coaching? Discipline? What exactly did you see on that field Saturday night to make you think a 10 win season should be doable? The quicker folks figure out that we've been caught and passed by a lot of football programs, the quicker you can settle down and enjoy LSU football again.
It comes and goes men, it comes and goes.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 12:59 am to sheek
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I don't think the Cookie Monster Club is assessing the gravity of the situation. There is nothing moralizing about losing to State 37-7
I'm no fan of O. Don't believe he was the right hire. However the hire has been made and nothing that you or I or any other rantard on here can do about it. Presently, LSU simply doesn't have the talent that Bama, State, Auburn, UFA, UF or even TN have. Hell, this team would be hard pressed to beat KY.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 1:07 am to geauxbrown
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It comes and goes men, it comes and goes.
Ohio State and Florida State hired the rt coach and got back to winning championships. Clemson hired the right coach and is a power now.
LSU failed at hiring a coach. It's pretty simple.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 1:11 am to Tigerbait357
I'm going to be outraged if they don't finish at least 9-3. I'm sick of this losing shite.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 4:24 am to Penrod
Penrod...great post. Mark Emmert was LSU's Chancellor, not AD. FIFY.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 5:03 am to Tigerbait357
Bc this train wreck season has been coming last year was the year and we failed
Posted on 9/19/17 at 5:09 am to geauxbrown
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Presently, LSU simply doesn't have the talent that Bama, State, Auburn, UFA, UF or even TN have.
Lol. You are foolish.
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